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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 12:41:02
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darn i tknew it was that time again,, I am looking at the page now to see if its something I just need, want , cannot live without
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 12:44:23
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Green Acres is the place to be I dont twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram,linkedin,tumble,pinterest,flick, blah blah,lets have an old fashioned conversation!
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 13:02:51
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yeah, I don't know what version of ST is included. I suspect a similar variant of the freebie. I haven't yet decided on buying it either.
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Jonbouy
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 17:42:07
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I might go for it this year because I could do with getting it all off my internal drives and start out with a fresh install on a seperate external. I'm also intrigued as to how the new sequential midi files work as they maybe a much better option than the current 'Stylemaker' for creating your own styles. Sampletank will likely go the same way as Amplitude did for me last year. Straight to trash. There doesn't look to be much in the new Real-Tracks that would interest me. Still it looks like good value at the December 'special' prices for those things I do want. It's even better value again if you are a couple of years out of the annual cycle, so I wouldn't be surprised if some regulars do skip this one.
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 19:02:41
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Oh well.. the 2012-5 upgrade was released a bit late, and my HDD upgrade for that edition is still new...
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 21:09:38
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I always skip the .5 releases, but usually get the full new release at the end of the year. I probably will....
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 21:31:17
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I missed out on 2012 all together. Def thinking about this one.
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 22:18:01
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/04 23:08:46
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/05 00:48:13
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Jonbouy arces
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Ham N Egz
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/05 08:24:38
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someone will come in here and start posting about the great Slash app
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/05 11:18:20
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Beagle musicman100 someone will come in here and start posting about the great Slash app iSlash? iTwo! (but then iFix it back up  )
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/06 00:37:09
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Ah! The BIB country stew. I used BIB for a spanish piece once (Arriba) with utmost success. I tried it again for a country jangle ... with utmost failure. My problem was I leaned to hard on BIB (for country genre) and lost my soul-vibe completely. Now I fear all country music (much of which seems so BIB-ish). BIB reminds me that most pop music is successful only because it gets drilled into listeners heads. I may be wrong on that notion. Now I'd prefer to just buy real grooves, performances, and chord progressions by real artists. The only validity I can 'feel' anymore with BIB are the doodle phrases to re-write and re-perform
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/07 10:09:42
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Ah, Philip, but a lot of the grooves and performances ARE by real artists! not all, but a good portion of the real tracks are recordings of real artists performing those chords, riffs, grooves, and even solo parts!
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/07 10:43:11
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The only validity I can 'feel' anymore with BIB are the doodle phrases to re-write and re-perform Ah, but that is the entire key to it's succesful use and it's main purpose as far is I'm concerned. 'Stew' is an excellent description of what comes bundled with it, 'pop' grooves that sound like they are some poor cabaret acts interpretation of 'pop' grooves, rock with a 'hard hitting' middle of the road country edge, blues like it is some mild mannered jazz variant, played in the most inoffensive style that you could hear as backround muzak in an average diner and the rest sounding like a resident jazz trio on a cruise ship. Yup safe to say most of that serves very little purpose to me. However feed the stylemaker some killer grooves of your own invention, experiment with different progressions, bridge sections, choruses, turnarounds and anything else and it becomes an indespensible writing aid. Add to that if you are lucky some of the generated 'real' rhythm parts might even stay the course and perhaps end up in the final production. You do have to harness it and drive it in order to get it to accede to YOUR demands, otherwise it will inflict the most awful generic sounding 'stew' on you and relentlessly regurgitate copious amounts of it upon your lap. Beware, but having said that it is an ingenious and deceptively capable application with a myriad of uses and nothing else out there comes anywhere close to touching it. The price they ask for it at this time of year just makes it pretty much an annual or bi-ennial no-brainer. A refreshingly great company to deal with too.
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/12 22:31:16
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Jonbouy said : blues like it is some mild mannered jazz variant, played in the most inoffensive style that you could hear as backround muzak in an average diner and the rest sounding like a resident jazz trio on a cruise ship. Yup safe to say most of that serves very little purpose to me. Looks like you haven't been paying full attention. biab has had great blues styles for years. made with Sol Philcox and others If these sound like muzak, give your head a shake! Press the Band Demo buttons on this page: http://www.pgmusic.com/re...os=win&sortby=name
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/12 22:54:59
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No doubting that's some fine playin' My observation still stands though, you ain't going to find anything to work with if you want to do something vaguely current that doesn't have made with BIAB stamped all over it. Great stuff if you want to shoot a couple scenes from the 60's or 70's and want some groovy background music going on for your extras to be swinging and dancing too. Of course there are some exceptional highlights in there it's the best part of 100Gb of stuff the bulk of which is pure cruise ship. Notwithstanding the content which MAY put anyone under 50 off completely, the program itself is a veritable swiss army knife of usefulness whatever genre or age range. btw Welcome to the forums. Different viewpoints are the stuff of good conversation. But if you think I haven't been paying attention you best hang YOUR head in shame as I'm a big advocate of BIAB round these parts when it often comes under fire from that very same criticism, but from those that haven't been using it for as long as I have and haven't been prepared to look past all that and see the gem of a program it really is. The UI is the other most common criticism you'll see, would you believe?
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/13 02:51:50
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So your previous post is about how the blues styles suck, and now you agree that that they have 'fine playin', and all it took to change your mind was a single link to hear some music produced by BIAB! So get set for more! Now your point has moved to this: "You ain't going to find anything to work with if you want to do something vaguely current that doesn't have made with BIAB stamped all over it" More unsubstantiated nonsense. Listen to the compositions that users (myself included) come up with in the User Showcase forum. There are 1,500 of these (each topic is a new composition). You are prepared to write all these off as "BIAB stamped all over it". Here's some links to some compositions on that forum, just over the last 2 weeks! http://www.pgmusic.com/fo...e=0&gonew=1#UNREAD Sounds like bass, piano, cello, violin, guitars, and some great vocals. Are you hearing a BIAB stamp there? Is it the cello that "stamps BIAB all over it" - if not, what? http://www.pgmusic.com/fo...p;page=1&fpart=all http://www.pgmusic.com/fo...amp;page=2&fpart=1 Kindly describe how these have "BIAB written all over them", or if you can't, just drop these inane complaints and snyde remarks about BIAB. My point is that you seem out of date with your comments on BIAB, yet you are describing yourself as an expert, spreading misinformation to people who are asking about it, so that's why I am calling you out on it. If there are any songwriters out there, do yourself a favor, and check out what other songwriters are doing with this program here: http://www.pgmusic.com/fo...amp;Board=usershowcase
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/13 07:36:47
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Did you actually read what I wrote in post #17 in reply to the original criticism which incidentally you'll see I didn't even initiate. What part of 'I'm a long-standing BIAB fan' are you not getting? Don't blind yourself in your fanaticism to defend something that isn't in actuality being attacked otherwise you might miss the point. You are obviously NOT a representative of PGMusic as every staff member I've been in touch with there is characteristcally friendly, super professional and helpful, which are three things your posts clearly seem to lack.
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/13 11:15:13
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When you say that certain styles suck, and I post links to show you that they in fact sound great, I hope you aren't taking offense. Just trying to educate you bro' !
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Ham N Egz
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/13 11:28:26
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fan bois??? the gnu guy could hold his own upstairs
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/13 12:51:13
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tony551 When you say that certain styles suck, and I post links to show you that they in fact sound great, I hope you aren't taking offense. Just trying to educate you bro' ! Yup and for every snappy style you find I could give you 25 toe curling cheeze fests back and you'd run out first. btw the word you were after is snide not Snyde. Snyde is probably an 80's band that someone used to base some of the 'Modern' rock styles on...
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/13 13:23:53
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Jonbouy said .....Yup and for every snappy style you find I could give you 25 toe curling cheeze fests back and you'd run out first. It's simpler than that. The new RealTracks styles are great, and the old MIDI ones suck. I only use the RealTracks styles. They cover the bases for me. btw, I think the word you were after is cheese not cheeze.
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Ham N Egz
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/13 13:40:24
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Girls, stop this bickering right now
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Re:Band in a Box 2013
2012/12/13 16:08:54
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musicman100 Girls, stop this bickering right now He started it...
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