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Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
I started writing this tune several years ago when I first got it into my head to retire. The first 2 verses literally rolled off my tongue then, bam… nothing. On 12/15/12 I finally did retire, and I finally finished the song too. It’s a simple little tune, but it rocks along pretty good with the help of my friends and collaborators. Danny Danzi- Lead Guitar, Spiritual & Production Guidance Dave (QuantumEffect) Carlson- Drums Ed (Bapu) Kocol- Bass, Backing Vocals and Production Phil (Philz) Doyle- Lead Vocal, Rhythm Guitar & Piano As always, all comments: good bad or indifferent on any aspect are welcomed. Hope y’all like it. Please note- The song does contain a few expletives, so if you have little kids in the room, you may want to want to usher them out or hold off listening.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/24 20:20:45
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You people are about to piss me off! Posting music I feel compelled to listen to? And comment on? While I'm trying to watch TV, I'm so sick of this shiz... I may not listen no more?!? I'm so tired... All I want is to be left alone! That MIDI bass sounds pretty good! Is that Spectrasonics? :-) Good job on this one! (except for that lame arse MIDI bass!) LOL!
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/24 20:21:34
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I really did enjoy, to be honest I still liked the other version but this is still awesome and Danny's solo was the highlight of it for me. Great job
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/24 20:39:17
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First - let me congratulate you on the retirement - I retired in June of 2011. Upon my retirement I immediately drew a complete blank on music - nothing new for about six months. Anyway - this is killer - you guys are so good together. Sometimes a straight forward, simple rocker like that is as good as music can get - just fantastic.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/24 22:04:49
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Congratulations on your retirement. The guitar tone in the solo was harsh and really didn't seem like it fit the song but I guess that's the risk you take when the guitarist has such a cliche style. It starts out OK but goes downhill at the 2:05 mark when it seems like he's trying to figure out how to fit in an excessive amount of notes. Again, it the cliche style and the idea the the more notes the better. A positive though, it's nice to hear Bapu play more than three different notes in a song.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/24 22:34:51
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SWEET!!!!
Love that solo, Danny.
Nice job, guys and congrats on the retirement too. :)
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 00:15:44
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phil i really like your vocals,you got a gritty voice,and i can almost see you smiling singing this song...lol..congrats on retirement Exspecially the end where you say...Yeaaaaaaaaa. bapu's bass is right in my face,i love it.there is one thing ive learned to appreciate about ed's bass playing is he carry's a tune. and only a good bass player can do that,trust me i know,because by nature,i am a bass player. im not sure i could give ed a higher compliment then that. Danny guitar licks,maybe pete is hearing alot of notes,what i hear is modes,i hear the scales,the melodic flow of his lead progressions,thay are amazing. If i were to start a band tommorow and someone let me pick all my own members,my first choice would be a guitarist and it would be danzi. he's the type of person that has the ability to change the whole sound of a song with out re-arranging rythm passages. the drummer never gets any love.. i will say this,the drums sounded really good,the kick and snare fit right in the mix nicely,my first listen they sounded a low in the mix. second listen..they're right where they should be. catchy tune. if your looking for for advise on things to do better....i got nothing. loved it !
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 07:59:14
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Danny guitar licks,maybe pete is hearing alot of notes,what i hear is modes,i hear the scales,the melodic flow of his lead progressions,thay are amazing.
I guess some people are more impressed by quantity of notes as opposed to quality of notes.  What did stand out too in the solo was that it sounded so thin. I think maybe it's the GB25s, but brother, the tone sounds like it's eminating from a telephone speaker. My constructive criticism for Danny would be to try not to shove a milllion notes into the solo, try to plan ahead and be more deliberate about what you are going to say in a solo. In the middle of this one it seems like there was point where the solo became lost for a moment and then randomly scurried off in a different direction. Planning will help with this. I would also would suggest cutting down on the bite on the tone and fattening it up a bit. The edge on the tone was like fingernails on a chalklboard. It would sound a lot better if the solo were more appropriate for the style of the song too. This one had a nice bluesy groove to it and a more melodic solo would fit better. I did think overall Phil did a great job with the song though.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 09:00:40
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The solo mapping was just fine and it has an appropriate amount of notes for this tune (I counted them and cross referenced with my "Acceptable Amount of Notes" chart). The style and tone are slightly out of place but this is a crunchy old style rocker and Danny's a very polished player. It'd be like having Steve Vai do a solo on a George Thorogood song. Of course it's gonna stick out a little. The moral of the story is... Pete, don't be an arse.
To Philz and gang. Strikes me you guys were going for a fun rocker. Mission accomplished. ;-)
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 09:06:42
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Hi Phil,
Congrats on the retirement and on this tribute to leaving the rat race!
The vocal is perfect. Sweet guitar solo and excellent playing from everyone.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 09:32:45
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Lottsa fun guys... 
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 09:58:07
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This is great fun! And Danny's solo, all that matters is it speaks to us. And it speaks loud and clear to me. Great job all around.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 10:03:00
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Congrats on the retirement Phil. I sure wish I could too.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 10:04:21
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Me like. Loved the guitar solo very much. Well done guys.
Lucky for me, when this song finished, it went on to homeland. Love that song.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 10:30:34
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chuckebaby
Danny guitar licks,maybe pete is hearing alot of notes,what i hear is modes,i hear the scales,the melodic flow of his lead progressions,thay are amazing.
I guess some people are more impressed by quantity of notes as opposed to quality of notes.
What did stand out too in the solo was that it sounded so thin. I think maybe it's the GB25s, but brother, the tone sounds like it's eminating from a telephone speaker. My constructive criticism for Danny would be to try not to shove a milllion notes into the solo, try to plan ahead and be more deliberate about what you are going to say in a solo. In the middle of this one it seems like there was point where the solo became lost for a moment and then randomly scurried off in a different direction. Planning will help with this. I would also would suggest cutting down on the bite on the tone and fattening it up a bit. The edge on the tone was like fingernails on a chalklboard. It would sound a lot better if the solo were more appropriate for the style of the song too. This one had a nice bluesy groove to it and a more melodic solo would fit better.
I did think overall Phil did a great job with the song though.
Why don't you play the solo and use your Dumble amp with your JBL pa speakers that spit out drum loops? Truth be told, the version of the song I played to instrument wise and eq wise was not what the final became. The version I soloed over was sort of thin and lacking definition because it wasn't really done yet, so I grabbed a strat and chose a sound that I felt complimented what was presented to me at the time. I actually asked Ed if he felt we should make the solo a bit less bitey since he made so many changes to the mix and he thought the solo section was ok as it was...so we went with it. I'm sure Ed or Phil would send you the track minus my solo. If you can do a better job, I'd rather the better job make it to the song. So please feel free. Thanks for the kind words everyone else...and thanks for letting me jam on the song Phil. Let ole pete play on the next one. Unlike me, he may have more than 10 minutes to put into the solo between client renders and do a better job that fits the song. -Danny
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 10:53:34
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Phil, Congrats on your retirement. I hope your stepping away from the rat race allows you many more opportunities to write more songs like this one. Great job! This song was a pure joy to listen to. Phil I really enjoyed your singing style and the raspyness to your vocal. It is very fitting to the song. The contributions by everyone was top notch. Loved the Drums, MIDI Bass  and the Guitars. Danny it's the net and despite the source from which the comments are coming from there is always something to gleen from things people tell you. Don't let anyone get under your skin. Especially here! Awesome job guys. This was a blast to listen to.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 12:24:30
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Phil, I retired two years ago, and I can relate to this song. All involved did a fine job, and I applaud you all. Pete, why don't you adapt your jazz stylings to this song and blow us away?
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 13:21:05
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Danny it's the net and despite the source from which the comments are coming from there is always something to gleen from things people tell you. Don't let anyone get under your skin. Especially here! For sure, with you there completely. There's also a way that people can go about telling others their feelings without such harshness. Ed can attest...if I would have given him a totally thick guitar tone for what we started with, it would have stuck out like a sore thumb as being too thick. We had a twangy rhythm, super high pitched snare, a bit too much beater in the kick, plinky piano, sibilent vocals....that's the mix I had to work with to record my parts. So what do you do, disregard that and just go for a super thick tone and tell them to accept it? LOL! Ed turned the mix completely around for the better, Phil re-recorded vocal parts. I'm not even sure Daves drums are the ones I played to. LOL! So yeah, if the mix I got to do my part on sounded like this, I would have definitely chosen a different tone for sure. But for where we were when I did my part, it fit perfectly to me. I tried to play for the song, ya know? I thought I did that..keeping it bluesey until the end. Can't please everyone...and that's ok too. :) I know my playing and style isn't for everyone. I got no problems taking lumps that way....I just thought some of this was a bit uncalled for really and I feel targeted as the dude has been following a few of my posts bashing on me every chance he gets. It gets old, ya know? I'm not offended...I just can't see the reason for any of it as I've never done anything to the guy other than tell him he's harsh with his comments to others. Oh well, it is what it is. I'm still happy with the outcome and am happy to have been a part of this. :) Thanks for the re-assurance though Rich. :) I'm just sorry this dude came into the thread to where there's a bit less of an enjoyment factor if you're me. I come on and see all this cliche stuff and bashing going on....it's just really sad to see someone that jealous of another person to try and go out of their way like this. -Danny
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 13:27:41
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Just point and laugh, Danny. By acknowledging the guy and letting him get under your skin you're giving him exactly what he wants.
You could also review his tunes (if they are indeed his tunes) like I have. It's fun! ;-)
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 13:35:48
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To PistolPete- Leonard, your post #5 amounted to nothing more than a personal attack on two of the finest musicians and greatest guys I know. That stuff has no place here, so I'd appreciate it if you'd just stay off the thread. You tried to turn it constructive in a subsequent post, but the damage was done and it was too late. While I thank you for the complimentary bone you threw my way, the truth is that I'm just another aging songwriter/rocker who'd be an absolute nothing without the likes of those three guys helping me out. Do us all a favor and keep your distance!
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 13:46:58
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Many thanks to Phil for letting me participate on this song.
Thanks to Danny for his production tips and I stand by the tone of his solo as I had the opportunity to listen to this in a cr@p KIA car stereo last night (not min, a friends car) and the whole song (including the solo) sounded great there. Everything perfectly balanced.
We all know that we all have different systems (i.e. equipment used to listen) so I generally chalk comments up to that fact (unless more than a few mention the same "problem" they hear).
I want to give a shout out to Carl (who mostly frequents the software forum) for the bass fx chain he sent me. I used it here (with some tweaks of course; since we all know presets are never exactly what we want). I had a pretty good tone initially but this FX chain may be something I use more than once. Thanks Carl.
Lastly I have to say that for the first time since I've been on these forums I have now blocked one user. Nuff said.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 14:20:02
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" You tried to turn it constructive in a subsequent post, but the damage was done"
The needle and the damage done...
Don't mess with the needle, and the spoon.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 14:25:55
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Phil,
Congrats on your retirement. I really enjoyed your song and all the performances. Like the gritty vox. The mix is well done. These collaborations are always interesting, this one particularly because I have heard a lot music from each of the your collaborators on their own. In this case, it is easy to pick out the different personalities but yet, it all works together very well. Personally I think the mix is really well done and I am also a big fan of the guitar solo. Very melodic, colorful and blends well with the song. Great job gents...
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 14:26:00
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Love it! Great song, great mix, and of course, great soling from Danny.
Pete can just go where the sun don't shine - sounds like rank jealousy to me
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 14:41:27
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The song and production sound really good you guys. I listened at home early this morning and in my car driving to work (not retired yet) and it is a lot of fun to hear.
Ed - did you use RotoSound strings on your bass (I think I spelled it wrong)? It really was clear on this song. Drums sounded like SD 2 played with pads? Nice job.
I liked the roughness of the vocal. It added much character especially for the theme of this song! I will never be able to play like Danny so it is always nice to hear what he does on a song. Good job too.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 14:48:31
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One thing I would do to this track is use a sim and EQ to add a little more of a biting distortion to the rhythm guit. Not much and I like what I'm assuming is an amp tone here but I think if there was a bit more hi end sauce on it it would get the solo and rhythm matching perfectly. I think it would really compliment the gritty vocals too.
Not a critique... just something I envisioned while listening. I am kind of a distortion addict though so it's probably just me.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 14:54:43
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Ed - did you use RotoSound strings on your bass (I think I spelled it wrong)? It was my P-Bass. Can't tell you about the strings. They are abut 6 months old and like Sir Paul I just buy "the shiny silver ones". I almost never pay attention to brand name.
Drums sounded like SD 2 played with pads? Nice job. Nope. The drums were payed live.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/25 16:14:39
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Rotosound is the way to go Ed. You should play them on your Alembic by all means.
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2013/02/25 16:20:58
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Rotosound is the way to go Ed. You should play them on your Alembic by all means.
My Alembic has Alembic strings on it. Seriously, Alembic has strings with their brand name on them. I actually know I used a Rotosound set years ago on my Alembic. Nothing about them stood out. YMMV.
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Re:Bapu, Danny, Dave and Phil Roll Out a New Rocker: “I Ain’t Workin’ No More”
2013/02/26 18:56:46
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Hello Phil i am sorry i have tried to listen to your song but the data speed of my cellphone slowed down so now it is way too slow for soundclick streams. but what i have heard so far was good. Peace Keeper all the Best
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