Cactus Music
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Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
With my new found love of converting real bass tracks into midi using the drag and drop Melodyne trick I though a thread talking about Bass VST's would be handy.
I'd prefer if we stick to traditional Electric Bass and for sure good Upright too. Please no synth Bass, I think we are well covered there. Don't get me wrong, I love a good fat synth bass, But right now I'm looking for the real deal.
As it is I'm happy enough with a custom patch using the SI Bass. So that's very close to what I use as an example of traditional Bass Sounds. It works perfectly for my Backing tracks and comes through the PA amazingly close to a perfect tone and punch. As a long time live sound guy I know what I want and this is now what I've committed over 50 songs to, so would be hard to turn back.
But as much as I'm happy camper for that use, it don't cut it for real recordings and I even wonder if anything will?
What's your favorite go to bass, Freebies ?? :)
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/21 23:29:33
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/21 23:57:56
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Manytone ManyBass is a good one - reasonable price. But my go to basses at the mo are the ones in Sampletank 3. Only the acoustics let it down.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 00:04:48
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isn't the manytone stuff still 32 bit? a lot of folk don't like messing with 32bit plugs these days. I have owned all the manytone stuff for years but haven't bothered with them since going 64bit, last i checked they were still 32 bit [edit] just read this response from paul of manytone to a question about 64bit Hi guys
I do care very much about this issue but unfortunately I have not been able to get 64bit versions. Sorry guys but it is not looking good at this point. Still looking into a few options however it is not an easy thing to accomplish. Wish I could have better news.
Please try to enjoy the 32-bit versions as at least they are bug free and work with a bit bridge.
Paul
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=293970&start=15
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 00:36:19
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For an upright, I like Rapture Session's Bass Guitar patch "Full Acoustic". It has a lot of growl.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 01:25:12
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 03:24:36
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Cactus Music
As it is I'm happy enough with a custom patch using the SI Bass.
S1 is the only bass I know of in this day and age that is not velocity sensitive.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 03:31:36
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+1 for Spectrasonics Trillian. The old spectrasonics Trilogy was also the best of it's day.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 03:51:13
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I've wondered about ample sounds Upright. One of the criticisms of Amplesounds was the transients made it sound like it had a latency. I believe they responded to this with some changes. Being it's not real time performance, but Audio to Midi created, it wouldn't have the same problem.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 13:47:24
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 13:56:22
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I am happy with the electric and acoustic basses of IK SampleTank 3 and one day I will grab Mondo (when it is less than $100). Before I got ST3 I was considering very decent B-BassV - you may check it here http://www.chocolateaudio.com/products/b-bassv
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 13:59:08
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Also Craig Anderton collection of Gibson EB5 bass is IMO great too. It should still be available at Cakewalk Store.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 14:15:42
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This is what I've been defaulting to lately. Pretty happy with the results
Electric = Modo
Upright = Trillian
I'm a big fan of Amplesound and have six of their guitars but I haven't tried their basses. Mostly in an attempt to protect my wallet from further damages.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 14:40:21
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Thanks for all the great responces so far, good information.
Yes, I avoid 32 bit plugs.. I still love my "Mr Tramp" best of all whurly's but I now use others.
I didn't notice that SI bass is not velocity sensitive.. It might be actually why it works so well for backing tracks. It will come through with the same tone no matter what the original velocity was. I rarely have to mess with even the level because I have that set in my pre set patch. I leave the channel at unity.
I grabbed the Gibso Basses when They we're offered free I think, I remember trying them and not likeing at all, but I should try them again while I'm doing this.
Anyhow, keep em comming
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Kamikaze
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 14:42:25
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 14:46:18
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+1 to Cake's basses for RPro, especially Upright full. Craig Anderton's bass collection is great, sits perfectly in the mix. ST3 basses are really nice too. For key-switching and playability nothing beats Ample Sound basses.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 17:19:28
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 17:41:54
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☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2017/04/22 23:46:39
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Craig Anderton's bass collection is great, sits perfectly in the mix.
Thanks, sitting in the mix was the intention...i wasn't going for "fret-noise-and-all" emulations, but something with the same kind of playing feel as a synth bass but the sound of an electric bass. The Les Paul really cuts through a mix, the Midtown is great for pop and modern country, while the EB5 has eight different sounds so some will be totally inappropriate while others will fit a song perfectly. (If anyone wants to hear how they sound in a mix, all the electric basses in my "Neo"- album used the Gibson bass expansion pack.) Although I don't really use it much any more because it's not as compatible with the kind of music I'm donig these days, the Scarbee Rickenbacker bass for Kontakt is outstanding.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 17:44:33
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Trilian is $300 but considering all you get it's actually a bargain. I've been using its non-standup acoustic bass and loving it. 1/3 of Trilian, however, is synth basses. And it lacks a Rickenbacker. If you don't care about synths, consider Orange Tree Samples' bass bundle. For $259 you get 4 basses, including the best Rick around as well as a superb acoustic.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 19:11:41
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Soundwise
Craig Anderton's bass collection is great, sits perfectly in the mix.
Thanks, sitting in the mix was the intention...i wasn't going for "fret-noise-and-all" emulations, but something with the same kind of playing feel as a synth bass but the sound of an electric bass. The Les Paul really cuts through a mix, the Midtown is great for pop and modern country, while the EB5 has eight different sounds so some will be totally inappropriate while others will fit a song perfectly. (If anyone wants to hear how they sound in a mix, all the electric basses in my "Neo"- album used the Gibson bass expansion pack.)
Although I don't really use it much any more because it's not as compatible with the kind of music I'm donig these days, the Scarbee Rickenbacker bass for Kontakt is outstanding.
Might I ask where you basses are availble to buy Craig A. ?
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Anderton
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 20:23:03
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First, you might want to check out the story behind them, as it gives you a good idea of what to expect. Here's the link for the landing page, which has specs and a demo video. The total package is around 4 GB.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 23:28:03
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This is a free light version of a P
http://www.amplesound.net/en/pro-pd.asp?id=19
Hey thanks for this one, I downloaded both the bass and the guitar. Very good, actually I think it might be a little bit better than SI bass. And the guitar VST is also impressive. Not that I have use for it but , you never know it might have a creative use.
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Soundwise
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/22 23:48:23
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/23 14:49:50
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Thanks for the heads up, how did you determine that? Ear or a tuner app?
I'll have to check but it seems odd they would go to all that work and not tune the bass :)
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Kamikaze
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/23 15:15:56
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Wow, that's not a great advert for something that's meant to assure you to go ahead a buy the full versions.
I ummed and ahhed for ages 2 years ago, where to invest in a decent bass sample player with Amplesounds the firm favourites. I started researching playing techniques so that I would be able to prgramm it convincingly, then decided to just get a real bass instead. I now have both an Acoustic Bass Guitar and Jazz (squire). So glad I did. Still tempted by their upright, but with nylon tapewounds on the acoustic and some process, I think it can perform a very similar role
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/23 15:49:32
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☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2017/04/23 19:30:18
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Thanks for the heads up, how did you determine that? Ear or a tuner app?
I'll have to check but it seems odd they would go to all that work and not tune the bass :)
Soundwise flagged some out-of-tune notes in the original EB5 pack for Rapture...very helpful. This caused me to check into why and I found some software tuners are accurate with guitar but not with bass. Also, the pitch of a bass string varies over time, so you have to decide whether you want to tune for the initlal pitch, or the pitch it "settles down" into. I've since gotten into using Melodyne to fine-tune notes, and also, sometimes use the pitch modulation tool to reduce pitch inconsistencies over the course of the sustain. Because the pitch fixes are so small, there are no audible artifacts.
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Re: Bass VST's Standard Electric and Upright.
2017/04/23 19:41:56
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Disclaimer: I'm not trying to bash this wonderful software developer, so the video below has the link only access and will eventually be deleted. Posted for educational purposes only!
Notice, how some RR notes are tuned differently.
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