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2012/04/20 14:32:09 (permalink)

Be Honest

Do you make ugly faces when you sing or do the Joe Crocker "doo doo" fingers. Lol. If so doesn't help performance. Just asking. If it works I might try. Hahahaha

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    RabbitSeason
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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 14:50:05 (permalink)
    No Joe Cocker fingers (because of the bass in my hands).  Just the face. 
     



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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 15:32:26 (permalink)
    I don't look so hot trying to hit high notes out of my range.   I have, however worked with artists that needs some performance help with lack of expression while signing. 

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 16:11:55 (permalink)
    I try to remember to smile while singing.

    I think it helps make it look like it sounds better.

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 16:14:02 (permalink)
    It does make a difference. I used to think it was an affectation, but I've found, even in my limited singing experience, that these sorts of contortions and movements do actually help. I guess some of it is just helping to get your chest/throat into the right configuration, I dunno. The moving hands or arms definitely help me to keep the flow and meter while singing, sort of conducting yourself as you sing.

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 16:19:25 (permalink)
    There were times when I was producing a vocalist who could not let go of thinking too hard about the melody.  She was all over the place because she was thinking too hard.  So I asked her to move her arms around at random to take her mind off singing and it worked.  She already had the song and feeling in her heart but until she was distracted, she couldn't deliver it well.

    Thanks for reminding me of that!

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 16:27:26 (permalink)
    Depends on what type of music whether you get the finger or the face contortions or if doing any of that type of music in the first place. Otherwise it is all conductor type symphony type performances.

     
     
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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 18:25:55 (permalink)
    when i'm pushing my range and belting, I find I sing on one leg.  not sure why, but it seems to help.

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 18:41:17 (permalink)
    I had to remove the mirror from my vocal booth for acoustical reasons, so I don't know.


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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 21:36:46 (permalink)
    Bit, you are too funny!  I thought you were moving to the island?  Is that soon to be?

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 21:36:53 (permalink)
    Bit, you are too funny!  I thought you were moving to the island?  Is that soon to be?

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 23:27:13 (permalink)
    Well I dont sing but I sure do make ugly faces at times    Sorry I couldnt help ya out on this one


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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/20 23:47:14 (permalink)
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    I try to remember to smile while singing.

    I think it helps make it look like it sounds better.

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    That actually made me laugh out loud.

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/21 08:48:10 (permalink)
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    Do you make ugly faces when you sing or do the Joe Crocker "doo doo" fingers. Lol. If so doesn't help performance. Just asking. If it works I might try. Hahahaha


    No. But people that hear me do.
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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/21 08:53:00 (permalink)
    Most of my ugly faces occur after the vocal tracking when I listen to the playback....


    But yeah.... I think I do make faces (as you call it) when I sing.... at least it feels that way. 

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/21 09:17:29 (permalink)
    I used to stand on one leg to hit the high notes.  Now, I play the guitar and sing, so I am pretty stationary.  I tend to close my eyes, but am trying to learn to make eye contact with the audience more.

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/21 10:10:56 (permalink)
    My face gets a little contorted when I sing, usually looking somewhat angry and I tend to want to close my eyes and I fight that impulse for sake of the show.  I find (from looking all the pictures) I make the most messed up faces playing drums though.
    Most of my life I have been playing guitar and singing.   With this band if I am singing lead I have to hand the guitar over to somebody else when we switch and I had a hard time getting used to it.  I felt kinda wierd behind just a mic stand.  
      
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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/21 12:07:54 (permalink)
    I'm working on vocals today. I'm going to try the arm flailing and scrunch face thingy.

    But I won't plan it out.
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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/21 16:46:14 (permalink)
    bapu


     I'm going to try the arm flailing and scrunch face thingy.



    I tried the Pete Townsend windmill thing one time and near about took my fingernail off when the string caught under it..... dang that hurt.... I gave up trying to be Pete that very moment. 

    I know for a fact I made a face on that one. 

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/23 22:47:32 (permalink)
    I heard that the reason behind Joe Cocker's odd arm/hand gestures was due to him playing "air" piano. He played piano and probably worked out a lot of the material sitting at the piano singing and playing. When he was up front with just a mic, the hands just kept on playing.
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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/24 01:57:39 (permalink)
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    I don't look so hot trying to hit high notes out of my range.   I have, however worked with artists that needs some performance help with lack of expression while signing. 

    Rimshot

    This means you're possibly straining to hit those high notes. I have just begun singing lessons again and in only two lessons, have learned to hit the highest of my range (which has already increased by at least 3 semi-tones in two weeks - up to a B4) without straining at all. Your mouth and face needs to stay relaxed during the whole process. When I used to hit high notes, my face would contort super ugly as I'd try and hit the notes. It seemed to help. But once I have learned to activate my muscles more appropriately, everything is changing! It's all about tilting your larynx - or so I've been told so far.


    So I would suggest a few lessons from a great teacher could be really beneficial for you!


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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/24 11:55:00 (permalink)
    I wouldn't say I make weird faces.... But I find that my hands are usually "twirling the notes" in the air.  That's a little odd.  :)

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/24 12:25:25 (permalink)
     I thought you were moving to the island?  Is that soon to be?

    That had to be temporarily put on hold. It's still the long-term plan, though.


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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/24 12:36:26 (permalink)
    I wouldn't say I make weird faces.... But I find that my hands are usually "twirling the notes" in the air.  That's a little odd.  :)

    Channeling Joe Cocker, are you? I don't think that's odd at all. Mick Jagger does it. Stevie Nicks does it, too. It's quite natural for hands to participate. Much more practical than, say, dancing.


    For me, my hands are usually employed as headphone clamps so no invisible-orchestra conducting is possible. However, I'm most comfortable playing the piano or organ while singing, even if the keyboard isn't being recorded.


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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/24 13:06:15 (permalink)
    Oh dear lord,it IS a little Jagger-Like..... 





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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/24 15:08:47 (permalink)
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    I'm going to try the arm flailing and scrunch face thingy.



    I tried the Pete Townsend windmill thing one time and near about took my fingernail off when the string caught under it..... dang that hurt.... I gave up trying to be Pete that very moment. 

    I know for a fact I made a face on that one. 
    Townshend had worse luck. He once impaled his hand on the tremolo bar.

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/24 20:35:01 (permalink)
    Man I can't even do contortions like Joe Cocker, let alone sing.

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/25 00:13:55 (permalink)
    When I sing in public ... my eyes shut their lids ... despite the fact that I should be staring intensely at their faces -- LOL!

    When I sing in private ... my eyes shut their lids ... and I bump into the pop-shield ... now I hold the pop-shield like its a frisbee -- LOL!

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/25 00:29:52 (permalink)
    That's interesting Philip? I'm a singer, and a pretty good one? But I can't sing with my eyes open in public? Even in a small setting? I can't explain it? But it seems like you understand.

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    Re:Be Honest 2012/04/25 00:36:47 (permalink)
    It's easy to turn into Ray Charles and slam your head into the mic or pop shielf, definitely.  But.... gotta take the mic technique seriously though. If you are serious about recording it like it should sound, you should be able to control your distant to/angle from the mic just as you control your picking technique to manage tone and volume. It's tough, but gotta do it.
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