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http://www.thebeatles.com/#/news/Vinyl "Manufactured on 180-gram, audiophile quality vinyl with replicated artwork, the 14 albums return to their original glory with details including the poster in The Beatles (The White Album), the Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Heart Club Band’s cutouts, and special inner bags for some of the titles. Each album will be available individually, and accompanied by a stunning, elegantly designed 252-page hardbound book in a lavish boxed edition which is limited to 50,000 copies worldwide" I heard on the radio that the boxed edition will retail for $500. 50,000 copies X $500 = $25Million. I bet they are sold out in an hour. They are going to release the Mono versions next year. I don't know what to make of this. I love the Beatles, all my LP's are worn out, I don't like the way the CD's sound, especially the remasters. It sounds like someone turn on Gloss and compressed them to oblivion. I'm probably going to pass.
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/29 22:26:43
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Geoff Emrick says the mono version are best and what was meant to be en they mixed them
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2012/09/29 22:59:09
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I've heard that about the first 4 albums, but after those I was always under the impression that the original UK releases were in Stereo. I'm not a big fan of mono anything, so I've always preferred the American Stereo release of the first 4 albums. It's the same tapes and recordings as the UK Mono releases, just hard panned on different equipment.
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 01:56:37
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Only the mentally ill will keep buying these Beatle reissues. I used to be into it but I now realise it's a big con. Do I detect the pernicious influence of Yoko in this latest venture? For my part- complete Beatles on tape, complete Beatles on CD, Beatles Anthology 3 double CD set, Beatles Anthology TV series on about 6 DVDs, Beatles Rockband game replete with crappy plastic toy bass and crappy plastic toy drums. Never again for me unless it is a tin lunchbox signed by all four Beatles. I would rather listen to Gaga.
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 02:18:03
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I've got enough Beatles music.
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 11:29:17
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That sounds like a great deal considering that most Mobile Fidedlity 180 gram virgin vinyl collections can be had but for almost twice that amount and they don't include anything but an stylus alignment. Mobile Fidelity did limit production for each master plate. Mine has never been played...unfortunately I've never owned a table that I would play them on......yet. Owning both the remastered digital releases on Cd's I wouldn't mind a bit owning the 180 gram virgin vinyl IF I knew how many runs they were doing with a master plate. The reason I wouldn't mind is that when the day comes and I can listen the MF collection it would be very cool to have the re-mastered digital on 180 gram virgin vinyl to listen to too. Having the production information in a nice read but very nice too. I believe it could be (if they do it right) a great addition to my Beatles collection. So....yes, maybe I will but I currently need more info and then I'll need to be given the oppertunity. 50,000 could disappear quickly.
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 11:40:39
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backwoods Only the mentally ill will keep buying these Beatle reissues. About 20 years ago I bought a box set of their CD's, it included the Past Master ones as well. It came in this nice little black rolling top case. The reason I bought it was, it was advertised as the digital transfers of the original metal masters and sounded better than anything previously released. I couldn't hear any difference at all when I got them. I bet if I ripped a file from each one and did a null test, they'd be identical. That was when I stopped falling for the 'newly mastered/newly remixed/newly found fresher master' crap. The only reason I'm even remotely thinking about this is everything I own now is worn out and/or scratched. But ... it said these are the LP versions of the newly remastered CD's that came out a couple years ago and I thought those sound like crap ... so I don't know. I was cleaning out my garage recently, getting ready to move, and I found an old ... and I mean old, cassette of The White Album that I made from an original Apple LP. That tape sounds awesome, and it's been laying in the bottom of a plastic tote in my garage in Iowa for the last 12 years enduring -20 to 110 degree temps, critter infestations, unGodly humidity, dust from gravel road etc etc. My truck has a cassette player in it and it's all I've been listening to lately. I just can't believe how good it sounds! Never again for me unless it is a tin lunchbox signed by all four Beatles. Yeah, but you sure as heck fire ain't gonna get that for $500.
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 11:47:02
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This would be a cool thing to own, no doubt. I wish it waas available with the early albums in both mono and stereo, and the others in stereo. I'd pay a little extra for that but am not going to buy both a mono and stereo set. My fear would be that after buying the stereo package, they would announce just that, a stereo set including mono copies of the albums that were mono mixed. That would not make me happy, neither would it surprise me. J
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 11:52:26
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They are going to release the Mono versions next year. This makes me wonder... are they just going to release the early LPs in mono or all of them, that would seem odd. Surely Abbey Road was never a mono mix... was it?? J
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2012/09/30 11:55:10
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Also.. who is goin to profit from this? Who now owns The BEATLES music? Michael Jackson's heirs or did McCartney regain ownership of his tunes... what about Ringo, Yoko, and George's family. I wonder. I'm sure corporate someone is getting a big share too. J
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 11:57:46
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I also own both of the remastered Cd collections and they both sound wonderful on my system. Of course it's a collection so there's not many that's not there. The thing I'd really enjoy having is a nice jukebox in my shop as I have all the colored vinyl 45's except two very rare ones that are colored differently and a good number of the matching jukebox tags. One of those big bubbling kind. I'd even put in a dinner booth! LOL
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 12:54:16
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Bub http://www.thebeatles.com/#/news/Vinyl "Manufactured on 180-gram, audiophile quality vinyl with replicated artwork, the 14 albums return to their original glory with details including the poster in The Beatles (The White Album), the Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Heart Club Band’s cutouts, and special inner bags for some of the titles. Each album will be available individually, and accompanied by a stunning, elegantly designed 252-page hardbound book in a lavish boxed edition which is limited to 50,000 copies worldwide" I heard on the radio that the boxed edition will retail for $500. 50,000 copies X $500 = $25Million. I bet they are sold out in an hour. They are going to release the Mono versions next year. I don't know what to make of this. I love the Beatles, all my LP's are worn out, I don't like the way the CD's sound, especially the remasters. It sounds like someone turn on Gloss and compressed them to oblivion. I'm probably going to pass. Bub, I think that if you did buy the new re-releases then it would be money well spent. Rodders
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 14:10:32
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they just copied the Monkees anyway
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 14:17:23
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jbow Also.. who is goin to profit from this? Who now owns The BEATLES music? Michael Jackson's heirs or did McCartney regain ownership of his tunes... what about Ringo, Yoko, and George's family. I wonder. I'm sure corporate someone is getting a big share too. J Looks like a mess... http://www.eonline.com/ne...gs-now-that-m-j-s-dead
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 14:29:26
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Whether I listen to MP3s on cheap Sony desktop speakers or tapes of old worn out vinyls or CDs, I always enjoy the Beatles. I highly doubt that a new pressing would increase my listening pleasure all that much. Besides revealing more and more of the shortcomings of the equipment that was used to record the music, I don't see the point. I'm sure that they didn't mix those albums thinking - "imagine how good this'll sound in 50 years" or "careful w/ that crossfade there, that little thing that we can't hear will be exposed in the future"...
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 18:41:10
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I should get Laser Technology turntable too?
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 19:38:16
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bapu I should get Laser Technology turntable too? A guy I knew many years ago that was a friend of a friend, had a laser guided arm on his record player. It was the kind that the arm went straight across so it tracked in the groove evenly. You could set it like a CD player in that you could say, play track 1, then 4, 3, etc etc. It used the laser to detect the gaps between the songs. It must have been a higher end turntable because of the linear tracking arm, and the laser, but it sure looked like a cheap piece of crap.
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 19:55:53
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spacey Owning both the remastered digital releases on Cd's I wouldn't mind a bit owning the 180 gram virgin vinyl IF I knew how many runs they were doing with a master plate. The reason I wouldn't mind is that when the day comes and I can listen the MF collection it would be very cool to have the re-mastered digital on 180 gram virgin vinyl to listen to too. I've heard conflicting stories on the new digital remasters. I have to admit though, I never listened to the actual CD's, I listened to 320k MP3's and there could have been coloration because of that. They sounded very harsh and too crystal clear, especially the first four albums. What I have seen a lot of people ask for is a remix of their entire collection, rather than a remaster. Now that would be something new that I would not hesitate or think twice about dropping $500 on. I think the first four albums would benefit the most from a remix ... I wonder if the original masters still exist?
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 22:26:48
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I can sure understand that but I make the decisions on what sounds good or not. Of course I didn't buy them for what they may or may not sound like. They are simply part of a collection although I did listen to them and was very pleased with the complete production and packaging. I have a point of view that supports me owning the new project. The biggest reason is that I want to leave a very nice collection for my grand daughter and I can relax knowing that I've already got it. Stuff like this is just icing. Something like this is just an addition that may have more value to her someday than the music. As for our ears and our satisfaction it's already happened....many years ago. The closest we could get to the studio for their sessions is the Mobile Fidelity Box. If one wanted to hear the best recordings from them...that's it. Everything else is just whatever will turn a buck or add to a collection. That's just my take and someday I'll enjoy listening to the best recordings made from the original master tapes on limited runs on virgin vinyl. Should anybody want to really hear them....how can it get any better than those?.....It can't unless you hear the master tapes....or were there. Do the original masters exist? I can only guess but a note of interest is that Mobile Fidelity received the master tapes in California to determine if they were good enough for them to do the project. I remember reading that they were blown completely away by the quality so sent them to Sony to get the project done. The collection can still be had on Ebay. I've seen it go from 8 to 1500 hundred. I've though more than once to get another so I could have one to play and one untouched. The 1500 dollar one I remember was still sealed in the original shipping box. So for sound quality...there's only one worth talking about IMO.
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2012/09/30 22:36:34
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/09/30 23:16:08
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spacey As for our ears and our satisfaction it's already happened....many years ago. The closest we could get to the studio for their sessions is the Mobile Fidelity Box. If one wanted to hear the best recordings from them...that's it. Ahh ... that's what I was looking for. :) Thanks for your input! Everything I've heard released by Mobile Fidelity on CD sounded like the high end was rolled off way too much, compared to the original releases. I've never heard a Mobile Fidelity LP, so I can't make an honest comparison between the two. My brother has a bunch of them, but would never even let me see them, let alone play one. Heh. I've never heard a single complaint about their LP's, but I have heard several about their CD's, so there may be something to me picking up on the high end roll off. I own A Night At The Opera, Dark Side Of The Moon, The Wall, The Police Synchonicity (Sold it on eBay), Days Of Future Passed, and Breakfast In America on Mobile Fidelity UltraDisc Gold CD's. I kept going back to the original CD releases and stopped buying the Mobile Fidelity ones because they just didn't compare in my opinion. Which leads me to this ... I had a chance to buy an unopened MF Beatles LP set one time for $600 ... I didn't do it because of the experience I had with the CD's. Oh well ... I didn't need another set anyways. I can point out, 10 seconds before it happens, every single place where one of them takes a breath, sighs, laughs in the background, every stupid ad lib thing Lennon says before, during, and after a song, forward and backwards (I have actually listened to everything the Beatles released backwards and created a web site about it.), so I really don't need another set to hear it clearer. :) But I completely get why you're building your collection and thinks it's great that your doing it! I think I would jump right on it if I had the cash ... but right now I have to update everything, and I mean everything, in the 23 year old house we just bought in MO. You see, it was designed and furnished by a well meaning 90 year old lady in 89' with horrible design skills.  If anyone needs a double seashell shaped bathroom sink ... in pink ... let me know ... it's yours!!!!!!!!! <--- I'm not joking! LOL! Bub.
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Re:Beatles releasing Vinyl Box Set in Stereo ...
2012/10/02 12:11:14
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Bub I've never heard a MF CD so I can't compare either. There is no doubt that the 180 gram virgin vinyl is superior vinyl but since that is not the only factor.... If I understood what they are doing with this release it will be as the CDs so therefore will not be the recordings as originally released. The CDs were remixed and remastered. That would put the Mobile Fidelity Box still being the best choice for the best listen for their original intent. Maybe in this state of the economy one may find the MF collection much cheaper- I haven't looked but it would sure be my preference. I do believe with your talent and "new" living conditions that you deserve a great place to enjoy creating and recording some music so personally I think those bucks would be best spent in helping you achieve that. Now if they new release was being made from the original master tapes....that could make it a very tuff decision and one only you could weigh out. So in the end of my opinion....I think this release is for those that liked what they did with the CDs and just gotta have it on the vinyl.....which is kinda weird unless it's just to have for a collection. ( or unless vinyl will make the CD recordings sound better...?) Yep....it's for collectors IMO.
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