Guitarhacker
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Beautiful Scars (the final mix)
This is a song, written by a lady in South Africa and sung and recorded (vocals)by a lady in Bali. I was asked about the mix on the original song which was lacking clarity and was rather dark and muddy. This is a mix completely redone here in my studio. Many of the original tracks were retained. Some are new and some were simply muted/deleted from this project to simplify it. http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13134432 EDIT: after much feedback from a few forums and also from the singer on this, we decided to do some additional changes to the mix...... nothing major, but hopefully in the right direction. There's a whole new bass track which gives this song a totally different groove and feel. This is very likely the final version. Much appreciation to those who listen and commented. Good ears in this place. This will be going on a CD project.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2015/05/29 13:07:57
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/26 13:25:43
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Well, as far as I'm concerned, that was a great mix. At one point I thought the piano part could do with being a bit more over to the left... just a bit. I dunno... It's just that a lot of stuff sits in the middle. Having said that, you'd expect most of that to sit in the middle anyway. Bass - in the middle. Kick and snare - in the middle. Main vocals - in the middle. Guitars are panned left and right as best as I can tell, but could they go further? The Hammond is well to the right, and is why I'm thinking the piano could go further left. But, hey! I'm no pro... very far from it, and it's been such a long time since I've mixed anything like this. A strong song though, and well worthy of any CD, in my opinion. cheers andy
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/26 13:33:39
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nice tune...... and a nice flowing groove.... if anything, i'd bring up the level of the drums across the board. give the kick a bit more thump.....
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/26 13:46:46
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cool stuff.... I actually backed some levels down on the mix that's up there now.... Joanne is the controller of the final mix decisions so I'm following her directions. It's understandable that the B3 sounds louder on one side or panned... it's actually a real stereo mix.... and looking at the wave you can see that the 2 channels are not the same.... I did pan the acoustics and the vocals.... everything else is close or centered. I'm with you Bat.... love me some nice drums in a mix. This song blew me away. Joanne wrote this about growing up in the Zimbabwe bush wars of the 70's as a child scared out of her wits. powerful song and I love the songs this lady writes. It's cool that she asked me to help with the final mixing on this.....
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2015/05/26 13:53:48
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/26 14:05:51
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Nice mix, clear and well-separated. Sounds a bit scooped on my monitors, though.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/26 14:29:44
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Sounded spot on to me, Herb. Really nice song too.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/26 15:14:59
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Bit....they were down about a db... from flat. the singer's EQ has a slight rise.... going flat on the mains warmed it a bit. Nice call Philz.... yeah, some really nice writing and melody work..... kinda wish I could claim some writing credits on this but I can't. I did help to write and record Fools Errand by the same writer. That's gonna be the title track I think for this CD.... this song is the last song on the disk... being released soon from South Africa and all proceeds are going to the Rhino conservation group.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/26 15:50:48
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I was really looking for something I could give feedback on so I wouldn't feel left out, but I agree with Phil; definitely "spot on." If you let me know when its available for purchase I will buy a copy.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/26 17:44:32
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Grizzlylip I was really looking for something I could give feedback on so I wouldn't feel left out, but I agree with Phil; definitely "spot on." If you let me know when its available for purchase I will buy a copy.
I certainly will announce it here. I do know that all the proceeds from the album/CD will be going to a Rhino conservation group in South Africa where JC lives.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/27 07:54:17
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yea...its a good mix but I'm thinking it could use a little lift off the paper a bit...seems a bit set back but even... good job!
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/27 09:53:32
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Tom, thanks for listening. I have posted a new, hopefully the final version on Soundclick with the lyrics and notes. In the final version I have leveled the EQ on the master with a slight bump in the mids to warm it up a bit. I have also cut the lows on the piano to lighten it up, as I thought it was a bit heavy sounding. I also pulled the strumming guitars out of the intro and lowered the finger picked guitar and the piano in the intro by a db or so. JC likes this version and hopefully you will too. None of the tweeks were major things... very subtle changes.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars"
2015/05/27 10:22:40
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I felt it had a "live" feel to the mix. I could've been at the gig, not far from the bins, with the bass hitting me in the chest. The more I listened, the more I was drawn into the song. I like it a lot.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars" edited/tweeked new version
2015/05/27 12:40:18
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I'm getting an error message from the Soundclick site, which is too bad because I wanted to hear this mix warmed up a bit. Otherwise, this is a terrific song with a compelling message. Congrats to all involved.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars" edited/tweeked new version
2015/05/27 12:52:13
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Lynn ...... Sorry about the error.... try it now. I was uploading a different version....I had neglected to trim the ending by 3 measures earlier when I posted it. SC was not letting me upload so I had to delete it and reload an entire new one..... new link. Rebel... I agree, this kinda draws you in.... I have heard this tune dozens of times perhaps hundreds as I have worked on this..... I still get chills in a few places knowing what this song is about. Edit: and somehow, despite my careful (or so I thought) selection of the proper mp3 file..... on soundclick, I still managed to get the long ending version..... oh well... just imagine it to be 3 measures shorter and we're good. The second link for Box.com does have the shorter ending version.... in case you really need to hear it.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2015/05/27 13:04:44
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars" edited/tweeked new version
2015/05/27 22:15:18
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You are really coming out with songs that not only sound great but have some very poignant lyrics. The mix also sounds "spot on" to me.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars" edited/tweeked new version
2015/05/29 13:04:31
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Freddy... thanks for listening. Yes.... this is hopefully the final mix that I posted today. Minor changes except for the bass track which is totally new and lends a different feel to the groove of the song.
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars" edited/tweeked new version
2015/05/30 22:36:52
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Hey Herb, this is a great song, nicely done. great vox there are a couple of places her vocals are slightly out of time. you've got some digital distortion going on, tho. 0:43, 1:01, 2:02, 2:10, 2:32, those are just some of them. always every time she sings "scars", but throughout other places as well. it's on the vocals. cheers
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars" edited/tweeked new version
2015/05/31 03:34:56
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Great emotional impression from this tune. Lead voice is close and interesting. Mix sounds great to me. There is something a little strange about the bgv. Sounds a little like an autotune artifact or something but maybe its only in my ears. Outstanding work here Herb, you just get better every time I hear you ...Bravo..............Ron
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Re: Mix crits requested on "Beautiful Scars" edited/tweeked new version
2015/05/31 14:20:48
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Thanks for the listen and the great ears. Regarding the vocals. I did not record the vocals. The tracks were recorded in a studio in Bali and unfortunately, they are what they are. There was to be no second take on them. I cringed a bit when I first heard them on my speakers. There's a harshness to them that I tried to tame but could not get rid of. I used Ozone on EQ and had them lower in the mix. There's very little tuning on the main vox and none on the BGV. I was mixing this under the direction of the author of the song and the lead vocal as well as the BGV are considerably louder than my original and preferred mix. Some of the issues mentioned are from the fact that the lead and BGV are up so loud and the harshness of those tracks combined are creating the distortion artifacts sound that I believe you are both referring to. Beagle mentioned the "out of time" aspect. She tends to sing behind the beat as I hear it. There were a few places where I was tempted to edit the vox a bit but JC ( not the singer BTW) was liking the character of the flaws so the timing was left alone and I had to go to bat for myself to get the several tuning fixes approved. Au-natural was the preferred method. I think we're done and this one will be going on the CD project. I love the folks in this forum.... you all have really good ears for details and know how to express in words the things you hear. This is not the case in all the music recording forums out there..... thanks.
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