Beginner interface questions

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2012/11/23 09:50:44 (permalink)

Beginner interface questions

  Hi all, I need the benefit of your advice and experience. I'm an old school guy who worked in pro audio years ago when analog reigned and digital signal was only used to automate mixing in big-house mixing desks. I have a strong knowledge of computers and computer science, but have not tried to apply that to audio until now. It's a whole different world than when I was previously involved. I'm looking to get as much usability while spending the least possible bucks - I guess most of us do. I'd love to sink the money into Protools 10 and Avid insterfaces, but I'm betting that with your advice I can come up with a very usable solution at a much reduced price. I'm interested in Cakewalk software but have questions about audio hardware interfaces and how easily they accomodate channel inline input from interface hardware. My requirements for an audio input device: I intend to use onscreen mixing and don't need a lot of capabilites in the input device. I want to make sure, that I can get a multichannel device that can input, say 10 or 12 analog inputs from live sources, and that I will be able to inline the input into Sonar to individual tracks. From what I'm reading, I think that is handled by Cakewalk software managing what's coming in through a firewire or usb connection. I see mixers out there: A & H, Yamaha, etc which have USB connections. Can I use one of these as input into Sonar, and will I be able to simultaneously record 8, or however many, discreet channels to separate tracks? Another concern is foldback. Can I send monitor channels out to the physical mixer that can provide headphone monitors for studio musicians? If not, how is foldback achieved? If yes, then can Sonar provide multiple headphone mixes, assuming that the board has more than 1 monitor channel. Thanks to anyone that has experience and can advise. Mike
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    Re:Beginner interface questions 2012/11/23 12:19:52 (permalink)
    Hi, Mike, and welcome to the forum.

    Opinions about interfaces will surely fly here, but keep in mind that most of us, myself included, have only personally used a couple different units. So if I say that Lynx and RME are good brands, I'm only repeating what I've heard elsewhere and not basing it on actual hands-on experience or objective testing.

    Hardware-wise, the differences between interfaces are not huge. Anything in the $400-$1200 price range will do a suitable job of converting your audio into numbers. Pick your interface based on features rather than mojo. That means if you need 16 simultaneous and separate inputs, you'll have to necessarily narrow the candidates to those with 16 channels. It means if you require ADAT, S/PDIF  or MIDI connections look for units with those features.

    Yes, you can use a digital mixer as your audio interface. Bear in mind that some of them only offer a single output, so you're limited to recording a full stereo mix, as opposed to multiple channels recording on separate tracks. One advantage of using a mixer is that you can combine sources when it's not necessary to record each channel individually. You can also expand a mixer more easily than a rack interface.

    Yes, you can have multiple headphone mixes, but only if your chosen interface has multiple analog outputs. Most of the mid-priced interfaces have at least 4 outputs, but 2 of those are your main monitor outs, leaving only 2 mono outs for headphone mixes. That may or may not be enough, depending on how you work. For me, as a one-man-band, 4 outputs are adequate (my interface has 10 outputs but I've never used more than 4).

    Also consider the number microphone versus line inputs, and make sure they match your needs. Pay attention to whether the jacks are on the front or rear of the unit. Some units have 8 or more mic inputs, some have only 2 mic inputs but multiple line inputs, and some have only line inputs. Some have the mic inputs on the front panel, which can be handy for quick connections, but having them all on the front means a mess of cables hanging down the front of your rack, getting in the way of other units.

    In my case, my interface has 2 front-mounted combination mic/line inputs and 8 line inputs on the back panel. I wish it had mic inputs on the backside to reduce cable clutter. If you'll be recording acoustic drums, you'll want many mic inputs as opposed to many line inputs, to save the expense of outboard preamps. Someone doing 100% in-the-box synthesizer compositions would be wasting their money on either one and would be better off with a PCIe interface.


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    Re:Beginner interface questions 2012/11/25 16:32:21 (permalink)
     Welcome to the forum mvbrando, lots of good people with good advice here.
     
    I'm currently using a Tascam us1641,U1 rackmount, little dated now but has served me well. I'm looking into doing some live(full band) recordings and this is the way I'm think I'm gonna go. http://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-24.4.2
    Little pricey,but most bang for the consumer buck. The thing that really grabbed my attention was the ability to control mixes from an ipad aswell as seperate monitor mixes from ipads & iphones.
     
    Good luck & welcome again.
    Kev
     

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