Behringer BCF2000 and Sonar ?

Well I see you have the V Studio 20. Is that not working for your control needs?
With the BCF you will have some additional control over Sonar, but at an additional cost.
What are you hoping to gain with the BCF 2000? This could be the answer to your question.

I now use a MCU & XT. I use to use a BCF in Mackie mode - I still have it as an ACT controller. IMHO there is no better value controller than the BCF. It's superb for the money.

I was looking to expand some of the functionality of the Mackie mode when I got my bcf2000 a month ago but the basic workings as described above are more than enough.  I found it was faster to just tweak/automate vst effects myself but the bcf2000 really makes mixing automation way easier for me.

FastBikerBoy


I now use a MCU & XT. I use to use a BCF in Mackie mode - I still have it as an ACT controller. IMHO there is no better value controller than the BCF. It's superb for the money.

Karl,


I'm looking at a picture of the BCF on the Sweetwater site, and I can't see any dedicated transport controls.
I'm wondering how you access these buttons on the device, and whether it poses any inconvenience. 

Also, assuming I don't care about motorized/touch sensitive faders,  I'm curious about what advantages the MCU has over the BCF.


Thanks,
Jonathan

Haredware controller? Thats so old fashion..
Why not just use a touchscreen, windows 8 a nd sonar x2...lol

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=sonar%20x2%20touch

jonathan1967

FastBikerBoy


I now use a MCU & XT. I use to use a BCF in Mackie mode - I still have it as an ACT controller. IMHO there is no better value controller than the BCF. It's superb for the money.

Karl,


I'm looking at a picture of the BCF on the Sweetwater site, and I can't see any dedicated transport controls.
I'm wondering how you access these buttons on the device, and whether it poses any inconvenience. 

Also, assuming I don't care about motorized/touch sensitive faders,  I'm curious about what advantages the MCU has over the BCF.


Thanks,
Jonathan

In Mackie mode the controls are all pre-programmed. There's more shifting to do than with an MCU but it is still very usable and at the price great value. Notice I said "best value" in my statement. An MCU is "better" but at the price it should be. I don't know what the price difference is now but when I bought my BCF it was over £1000 cheaper than the full blown Mackie.
 
There's a guide I wrote for the BCF which will give you an idea of what it is capable of HERE 
 
So Mackie advantages are.......
 
Jog wheel
Easier access to some functions as there is less shifting.
LED scribble strip (although there is a virtual one for the BCF)
Touch sensitive faders i.e. you can overwrite automation with the Mackie, the BCF faders will fight you (and win)
Access to a few more functions as it has four "M" keys compared to one on the BCF.
Bigger footprint (which could be a disadvantage)
Dedicated master fader (you have to switch the BCF)
 
That's about it though. Definitely not a £1000 worth IMHO which I guess leads to the question "Why have I got one?"
 
I got mine and the XT second hand at a very good price and I'm glad I did but I wouldn't pay full price for one over the BCF. (Cos I'm a tight git)
 
Bonus is I can use the BCF as an ACT controller which is something the Mackie can't do.
 
HTH

I just got a BCF2000 used for 149.   I only wanted fader, MSR ,pan and transport and its great for that.   I had no intentions to use it for anything else.   I like to touch a physical surface for certain mix situations and this works perfectly.

Its great well worth the money, but the faders are jumpy and a tad noisy, I've gotten used to that but for the price there's no better.
 
Roy
 

I've been using a BCF2000 since Sonar 7.  To be truthful I don't use all the functions, but I do like the motorized faders.

Ok. So I got a hold of Behringer. If you ever have a problem with the machine contact . They are affiliated with Behringer. They told me to push the far left button under the first knob (not the encoder) and then turn the machine on. This reset all the hardware and the software and allows you to then communicate with the computer. This saved me from either getting it fix or buying another one. I will be testing it with Sonar 3Xe later on today. I want to thank all of you who responded in good faith. Your support was helpful. E.C. 

See below. I jut got this response this morning the Behringer. 
 
Did you manage to set the BCF to the correct mode? Hold 4th button (not encoder) along from top left whilst powering up. MCso should now appear in the display. Select Mackie Control from the MIDI controller list in Sonar and you should be good to go. 
 
I am adding to make sure you pick the Mackie 1 controller. I picked the Mackie 4c by accident. Once I realized what i did and made the switch it all came together. The the faders in sonar x3 and the BCF 2000 were in sync. Let me know if this helps E.C.

You got me. i'm also not at the studios now. Pick one and see what happens. Good luck. E.C.

Great. Good luck and have fun. 

Not sure if this will help you, but faders "are" touch sensitive. From track view click on utilities and scroll to Mackie control -1.  On right hand side check off options:
1. Solo selects channel
2. Fader touch selects channel
3. Select highlights track
Click on layout...... configure twice and done.
Took me weeks to find out how to activate the touch sensitive, but all is working once I did this.
Hope this helps you out a bit.
 

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MAJOR SHORTCOMING!!!  Faders are not touch sensitive so you cannot overwrite automation lanes already there!  When a fader is not moving, the data goes back to the original lane.  If you move a fader up to a new level and hold it, the hold is not registered.   If you google this, you will find it to be true.  I have one and that is a major bug for me so I am selling it

Have you tried using automation write mode Overwrite or latch in SONAR? Both these will write automation from the last touched fader position and not jump to the prior envelope when you release the fader.