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Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
Hi all By chance is there any one else here using a V-amp pro in a Windows 7 setup ? My Setup is Windows 7 64 Sonar Producer X1D with a VS-700 system. I have had my system working with the V-amp editor software in the past for saving presets but I have now run in to problems. I had not used the V-amp in a while and decided to factory reset the unit and put some old presets on it using the software but the problem I am now facing is when I launch the vamp.exe installer I get the error No response from V-amp !! Check connection. Because of this I cant even install the software. I have been in touch with Behringer support and they have been no help at all. They started by telling me the editor will not work with Windows 7 ( I know this is not true as I had it working in the past ) They then got back and told me that they have now got it working on a Windows 7 system at there end with no problems. I have done the following trouble shooting with them. Delete the editor turn off computer download and run the editor again but still with no luck. They are now telling me it may be because I am using a VS-700 and because I have a Ilok2 in my computer so I took the Ilok2 out and still no luck. They are now telling me "There is too many possibilities and or conflicts ... with using a VS-700 as a interface, combined with a ilock.. and Windows 7... " In there last email they said to uninstall the Drivers for the VS-700 and anything else I use and then reinstall them then try the V-amp editor..... I don't want to have to uninstall the drivers for the VS-700 because it works fine with everything else and the midi in and out has no problems with any other device. I hope some of you guys maybe have it working or have a Idea of anything else I can try ? I am really unimpressed with Behringer support. Thanks to all Norrie
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/25 06:49:05
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Hi Norrie - how you doing pal? Long time no speak. I've got the V-Amp Pro but I don't use it to the same extent as you do, I only hook it up via the analog ins/outs I did have one problem with it about a year ago which was resolved by replacing the CMOS battery inside. I can't see how that's going to help you but it's a cheap thing to eliminate. Take care mate - I'll email you sometime soon, promise!
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Norrie
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/25 09:21:11
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Hi Jonesey !
Long time no speak !
Something happened with my Yahoo account a while ago and my contacts vanished so I am sorry for not being in touch.
The V-amp problems a bit of a pain not being able to save the patches It will be put away once I get the new GT-100 but I will plod along with it till then Hope to hear from you
Norrie
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/25 13:41:04
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I just bought a used one off of ebay. I have not tried to connect it to the computer yet, but I wouldn't mind trying. If I get a chance this weekend, I'll hook it up and load the software and see what happens and let you know.
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Norrie
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/25 13:43:05
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Hi Beagle that would be great thank you.
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/26 11:10:18
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Hi Norrie, I was able to take the day off today to take care of my wife who had a medical procedure this morning. so I took the opportunity to try to set up the V-amp Pro software on my system and connect it via MIDI. I AM able to communicate with the V-amp using the following configuration: Win7x64 M-audio UNO MIDI/USB cable with 64bit drivers NOTE: I'm not using VS-700 - and just going thru the M-audio UNO for the MIDI connection to the V-amp when v-amp comes up it scans, finds the M-audio UNO connection, finds the V-amp, sets it as BASS V-AMP PRO 1.04 one thing I just now mentioned that you likely have different is that I have the BASS V-Amp Pro, not the Guitar one. but I would think that wouldn't really matter for the connection software. it works fine for me on win7 64bit. I don't know if it really is a VS-700 problem or not, but I really would be surprised that the VS-700 would be the problem. If you can borrow or buy a MIDI/USB cable instead of gonig thru the VS-700 that would tell you if it really is the VS700 or not. but the software itself works fine on win7x64!
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/26 12:27:08
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Personally I cannot see that any one interface would interfere in the MIDI in/out department. It's such a simple part of the drivers. We've had 35 years to get that right! I too would be very reluctant to uninstall my interface drivers. My guess is it is once again Behringer's sketchy drivers. They make decent stuff and certainly affordable, I love my little mixer, but you do see complaints about the drivers on the forums. Hey, at least they get back to you!
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/26 12:57:10
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Hi Beagle !
Thank you for the reply and I hope your wife is doing ok ?
It is not even showing any signs of the system being scanned on my side its just coming up with the error each time.
It is strange this has started since doing a factory rest on the V-amp as it was working fine before that.
Thank you for confirming that windows 7 is not the problem :) I have asked them what is the Behringer complaints procedure and funny enough they have now offered to start calling me to offer support rather than give me the info so I will see how I get on :)
Thanks again for all the help
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/26 13:42:12
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/26 18:41:04
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Thanks Beagle
I have just been contacted again by Behringer this time by one of there senior techs with a long apology about the situation and that the VS-700 is more than adequate for the purpose.
Anyways long story short ..... I have been asked me to download MidiOx and check the data going to, and coming from your VAMP PRO, and what the VAMP PRO is connected to, in this case, your PC via the Roland interface.
Has any one any experience with MidiOx ?
Will it leave any foot print behind or install anything that I don't want on my DAW ?
Thanks again for all your help
Norrie
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/26 22:42:17
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MIDIOx is a great little program. it's a very small footprint, runs basically in DOS mode, I think, I don't think it even puts any registry keys in. very useful for sussing out MIDI problems. nothing to worry about it installing or leaving behind that you don't want.
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/27 01:57:06
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Norrie or Anyone reading this................ Trust me,I have been a V-Amp Pro User for years. I know the unit inside and out as well as the V-Ampire LX1 amp. Other than being able to chain 1-2 more FX independently, and store files you/I ? gain little using the PC editor. Seriously almost ZERO. The Fx are not studio grade anyway so don't bother.................. imo You will get the best out of this unit keeping it simple................. 1 .Use the Digital cab sims that you like................or the analogue built in cab sim(its not for me) 2. Use the digital amp model you like. 3 Learn how to correctly set which mode you want to use the unit in.................. 4 .Learn how to correctly use both channel EQ and the Global EQ............it makes a huge difference when tone shaping. 5. Learn How to use the input attenuation.................it will vastly affect how different guitar pickups sound and interact with the unit..........if you work on it you can get a good sounding soft clip. You can't get that out of the other modelers. 6. Forget the digital output............it is sterile and has very poor gain staging............it is weak, not professional grade at all. 7. Use the analogue XLR output with a nice tube saturation type pre-amp for tracking and possibly some form of out board parametric EQ............ AND TRACK DRY. As far as you editor problem, some are caused by your graphics settings . Other than chaining a few of the FX together seperatley, you can do all of the exact same editing on the front of the unit and save them all as well. For me its faster and you have no extra cables hanging everywhere.I can look at the unit and see whats up................I don't have to open the PC editor. If anyone has any questions concerning the physical operation of the unit feel free to PM me I will help as much as possible. I personally feel the V-Amp Pro is one of the best low cost option for home recording.................but It only does a few things really well.........use those and your golden. Oops.......sorry Beagle ,I didn't read the previous replies..............I just started typing, edited for Norries good points
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Norrie
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/27 09:12:41
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@ Beagle. Thank you I will give MIDIOx a try today and see what results it gives me then report back and let you know how I get on :)
@Zungle . I have to disagree to an extent.... Part of the Editor is for being able to Import and Export Sysex files for saving on the DAW or importing to the V-amp.
There are loads of Sysex available for download online most of them I have here and yes a lot of them are crap but a lot I have found to be better than what is on the unit from factory reset. If you have not tried them I would recommend doing so its also a great way to share tones with other users as you will see on the website.
With out having this running at the moment I cant access the saved files I have.
Although it might not be "Studio Quality" and that is your opinion I use it for tracking recording a dry Signal but playing back the V-amp sounds then I re amp my dry track.
I have found the V-amp to be a lot better than a lot of the guitar plugins out there for the price it gets the job done but agree its not as good as other outboard out there and I have a GT-100 on order that I cant wait to get :)
Regards
Norrie
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/27 12:45:18
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There are loads of Sysex available for download online most of them I have here and yes a lot of them are crap but a lot I have found to be better than what is on the unit from factory reset. If you have not tried them I would recommend doing so its also a great way to share tones with other users as you will see on the website. Hi Norrie, Hope your doing well I have done the file sharing thing with the V-Amp and the LX1...................... never felt there was anything useful out there....................lots of cool stuff though. ....and nothing to say I shouldn't take a second lookwith your input. I think its because I prefer getting the most dry natural guitar sounds into the box then working with it? However you are right....Saving presets and backing up the unit is a plus......................... But I have my unit dialed in so closely I for my playing there is nothing I couldn't reproduce in minutes on any unit.................and knock on wood mine has never died..........I own 2 ,V-Amp Pros and 1 V-Ampire LX1.....all of which are at least 6 years old... IMO.......The FX on the V-Amp are Cool for noodling and quick demo stuff.................but are far from credible vs any decent plug ins. Re-Amping with plug ins like Amplitube is one thing because you stay in the box. I don't use the re-amping feature on the V-Amp as your introducing more noise and latency to your track...............................thus I prefer to get it dialed in first...........there is also the issue of playing nuances that are lost with re-amping. As a note I have tinkered with the new GT 100............. as a live unit for a working pro it is a cool piece....................and it has all the FX and bells and whistles............. but the V-Amp pro still has the 1-2 cab sims and amp models that I prefer................ I also played with the Zoom G-3 ....................the distortion and gain models on it smoke the GT100 completely. The direct recording models are better as well.................IMO Zoom seems to have really dialed in digital pre-amping...............they seem well ahead of the pack at this time. The Zoom G5 looks to be awesome I just haven't been able to play with one yet. Later
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Norrie
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/27 12:57:23
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Hi Zungle Don't get me wrong there is a lot of crap to download lol but there are some cool presets put up by users on there I don't use the re-amping feature of the vamp ether what I do is go direct in with my guitar though my VS- 700 using lines in and out on the back of the V-amp and creating a output in Sonar I then hear the Vamp but its only recording my Di in to the VS-700 dry. If I wanted to keep the V-amp tone I could then freeze it but if not I can keep it dry and load a plug in or send the dry signal out for re-amping. I will look in too the Zoom stuff but I love Roland products :)
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Re:Behringer V-amp pro and Windows 7
2012/04/27 13:16:27
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I will look in too the Zoom stuff but I love Roland products :) The thing is the Roland stuff is so dam reliable and your buying a solid quality product for sure.IMO But do check out the Zoom G-3 its very basic but their distortions and pre-amp are for real. If you play with one please post your thoughts.................. You know there is a good chance I'm getting senile with age
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