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2015/10/26 23:15:45 (permalink)

Bells

Anything labeled "Bell" in any of the synths in Sonar are anything, but bells. I'm looking for real bell sounds like church bells or other large bells. Like the one on AC/DC's Hells Bells.
 
Anyone know where I can get this?

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 01:18:01 (permalink)

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 02:02:05 (permalink)
That is definitely what I'm looking for, but is that just for Kontakt or will it work with any synth?

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 02:24:57 (permalink)
It requires the full version of Kontakt (at least version 4.2.4).

If you don't own Kontakt yet, it's well worth the investment. There are countless high quality libraries out there that don't work in the free Kontakt Player. If you use a lot of sample libraries in your work, you won't regret owning the full version. :)

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 09:44:06 (permalink)
You're going to have to go Kontakt for real bells. There are a number of good bell and carillon libraries out there, sampled from actual church bells and such. So if you don't have Kontakt yet, it's time to dump out your penny jar - you won't regret it!


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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 10:31:12 (permalink)
Good to know, thanks.
 
Must be a serious sampler, 48 gig full install or 100 gigs for Komplete and 320 of Ultimate!

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 12:45:24 (permalink)
Kontakt is the standard by which all others are judged.    Sounds kinda funny, but is kinda true.  
 
And FWIW, there are so many usable free and cheap libraries out there that it's almost endless.

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 13:48:48 (permalink)
I remember a good church bell in Roland's old Sound Canvas. I wonder if the Virtual Sound Canvas still works?
 
http://en.freedownloadmanager.org/Windows-PC/Virtual-Sound-Canvas-VST-FREE.html
 
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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 15:46:46 (permalink)
That link ends up on a Japanese site. Couldn't read it or find anything saying sound canvas.

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 16:07:50 (permalink)
Yeah, forget that then...I thought it led to Roland Japan. Apparently not.
 
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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 16:38:05 (permalink)
I have gotten good results from a "Magnalite Aluminum Dutch Oven." Hold it upside down and hit it (with drumstick) along the edge (where the lid sits) for sharp attack. Use a soft striker (wrap and tape a towel around the drumstick) as an alternative sound. The lid for the same pot works great for a higher pitched sound. Hit it all over for some great sounds.
 
 

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 16:54:49 (permalink)
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How about this one? 

https://www.sonokinetic.n..roducts/classical/toll/




First thing that sprang to my mind too.  There are others, but... based on his description, Toll.
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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 17:51:16 (permalink)
There are also some really great church bells in Era II Medieval Legends that are sampled from various distances away from the bells. Era II is one of my favorite purchases ever, so it's definitely worth having for more than just the bells. Also, it doesn't require Kontakt. It runs in the free Engine player. 

http://www.bestservice.de..._medieval_legends.html

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Re: Bells 2015/10/27 21:17:32 (permalink)
I have Sonokinetic's Carillon, which is pretty cool. I went to find a link for you but it seems to have been superseded by a newer library called Toll.


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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 00:27:08 (permalink)
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There are also some really great church bells in Era II Medieval Legends that are sampled from various distances away from the bells. Era II is one of my favorite purchases ever, so it's definitely worth having for more than just the bells. Also, it doesn't require Kontakt. It runs in the free Engine player. 

http://www.bestservice.de..._medieval_legends.html




I'll take that one for the cool factor alone.

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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 00:29:40 (permalink)
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I have Sonokinetic's Carillon, which is pretty cool. I went to find a link for you but it seems to have been superseded by a newer library called Toll.




That's very cool actually. I guess I'm going to have to just buy Kontakt. I don't use a lot of synths, but I can see some of this going to good use.

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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 08:39:45 (permalink)
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I have Sonokinetic's Carillon, which is pretty cool. I went to find a link for you but it seems to have been superseded by a newer library called Toll.




That's very cool actually. I guess I'm going to have to just buy Kontakt. I don't use a lot of synths, but I can see some of this going to good use.




If you are going to buy Kontakt, I would recommend you jump in and get Komplete. It comes with Kontakt and a bunch of useful stuff as well. The price difference isn't that great considering all you get. Komplete Ultimate, I couldn't justify, though I have since added some items from Ultimate to my setup during Black Friday sales.
 
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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 09:17:32 (permalink)
BFlat, I'm not a big synth user either, preferring organic elements over synthetic ones. But Kontakt fits right into that milieu, providing me with believable percussion, strings, brass, pianos and things I didn't know I was missing. Things I wouldn't have thought of using musically or that wouldn't have been available to me anyway: rare antique instruments, exotic ethnic instruments, re-purposed objects (e.g. clothes dryer/water bottles/dumpster for percussion), and instruments I don't know how to play (e.g. hammered dulcimer). Kontakt is the doorway to a whole new world of creative opportunities.


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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 10:02:44 (permalink)
You might want to look at these free bell wavs:

http://www.orangefreesoun...nd-effects/bell-sound/

http://www.freesound.org/search/?q=bells

Kontakt is my go to sound source for almost everything.  NI is coming out with Kontakt6 soon, at least according to their site.

Good luck.



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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 10:09:12 (permalink)
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You might want to look at these free bell wavs:

http://www.orangefreesoun...nd-effects/bell-sound/

http://www.freesound.org/search/?q=bells

Kontakt is my go to sound source for almost everything.  NI is coming out with Kontakt6 soon, at least according to their site.

Good luck.





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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 12:24:44 (permalink)
...NI is coming out with Kontakt6 soon...

Pfft. Yet another forced upgrade.
 
Within a few months of K6's release, all new NI-registered third-party libraries will require it. Even if they don't use any of the new features. Library developers should be provided with the option to save files that are compatible with previous versions.
 
Sheesh, even whatever-you-bought-yesterday-is-obsolete Microsoft does that!


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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 14:02:52 (permalink)
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...NI is coming out with Kontakt6 soon...

Pfft. Yet another forced upgrade.
 
Within a few months of K6's release, all new NI-registered third-party libraries will require it. Even if they don't use any of the new features. Library developers should be provided with the option to save files that are compatible with previous versions.
 
Sheesh, even whatever-you-bought-yesterday-is-obsolete Microsoft does that!




Yea that sucks!  I never upgrade Kontakt unless there is something that I want in the new format.  I ran Kontakt 4 for a long time before I upgraded to 5.  I will do the same when 6 comes out.

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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 19:50:56 (permalink)
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NI is coming out with Kontakt6 soon, at least according to their site.


Where did you read about Kontakt 6? I can't seem to find any news at all on it. 



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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 19:53:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/10/28 22:01:43
I ran Kontakt 2 for a long time but eventually was coerced into buying K3.
 
I ran Kontakt 3 for a long time but eventually was strong armed into buying K4.
 
I ran Kontakt 4 for years but eventually had no choice but to buy K5.
 
I've been enjoying K5. I'm sure it will be my last Kontakt version forever.


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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 20:48:27 (permalink)
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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 21:19:52 (permalink)
I started with Kontakt 5, so I've never had to upgrade to a newer version. What's generally the price to upgrade for owners of the most current previous version (Ex: What did it cost to upgrade from Kontakt 4 to 5?)?
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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 21:35:59 (permalink)
$79 IIRC, on sale. $99 normally.


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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 21:36:31 (permalink)
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$79 IIRC, on sale. $99 normally.



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Re: Bells 2015/10/28 21:52:22 (permalink)
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I ran Kontakt 2 for a long time but eventually was coerced into buying K3.
 
I ran Kontakt 3 for a long time but eventually was strong armed into buying K4.
 
I ran Kontakt 4 for years but eventually had no choice but to buy K5.
 
I've been enjoying K5. I'm sure it will be my last Kontakt version forever.



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Re: Bells 2015/10/29 17:37:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/10/29 18:22:36
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NI is coming out with Kontakt6 soon, at least according to their site.


Where did you read about Kontakt 6? I can't seem to find any news at all on it. 






In the Kontakt thread of the NI forums.  Here is the initial message:
 
For those who haven't found it yet, KVR just posted a great interview with NI's chiefs Daniel Haver and Mate Galic, here (http://www.kvraudio.com/i...and-mate-galic-31301).

In the course of it, they're asked about the future of Kontakt, and I figured their response would be of interest to all those who gather here:

    Q: What is the future of Kontakt? There is a huge base of developers making libraries for it.

    A: I can say that there's a major update on the horizon. I cannot mention any dates or features, but what I can tell you is that we started this year to host two annual Kontakt developer conferences, held in Los Angeles and Berlin. We invited all major partners in the Kontakt domain and revealed our roadmap to them so that they can start to envision the new features that will be available to help them create even better and more exciting products. So we've invested a ton, both in the Kontakt engine and in the Kontakt product, and are now very excited to see what amazing instruments our partners will come up with.




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