Best CDs for mastering

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2008/10/29 15:06:34 (permalink)

Best CDs for mastering

I'm looking for the best quality digital audio CDs to use as a final master to be sent out for duplication. Just wondering what people are using.

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    batsbrew
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 15:27:23 (permalink)
    do you mean cdr's?

    looky here:
    http://club.cdfreaks.com/f77/

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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 15:34:02 (permalink)
    Also important is to burn at a low speed and check for errors afterwards. The errors might be inaudible but if your making a master you'll want it to last. Also, the burner matters as much as the cdr's.

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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 15:40:01 (permalink)
    do you mean cdr's?


    Yes...I guess I'm looking for whatever they probably use in professional mastering labs. I know they make better quality CDRs than, for example, something you might pick up at Staples.

    Also, the burner matters as much as the cdr's.

    I've got CD Architect.
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 15:40:57 (permalink)
    Taiyo Yudens.

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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 16:02:46 (permalink)
    Taiyo Yudens


    Thanks, Beagle! That's exactly what I was looking for.

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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 16:27:52 (permalink)
    Taiyo Yudens

    +1

    You can't normally go by brand names (e.g. TDK, Memorex, Verbatim) because they routinely mix stock from various manufacturers. Turns out there are only a handful of companies that actually manufacturer CDRs, and all the familiar brands buy from multiple sources. A box of disks might represent 2 or 3 manufacturers.

    Taiyo Yuden is one of the most-respected actual CDR manufacturers. They make disks for many name brands you see at Office Depot, too. But TY is one of the few that also sell under their own name, so you actually know who the real manufacturer is.

    If you have trouble finding them locally, Sweetwater carries them.



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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 17:04:12 (permalink)
    + 2

    TY's are all I ever use. Look at supermediastore.com for good bulk prices.
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 17:17:07 (permalink)
    you guys really should check the link i provided..

    for example:

    Verbatim branded Taiyo Yuden 52x CD-R burned at 16x

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    LiteOn LH-20A1H LL0D, 78:13:72 (687MB) burned at 16x
    ATIP: 97m24s01f
    Sold as Verbatim Pastel Disc 52x 700MB CD-R ©2004 in 50pk Spindle

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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/29 18:05:20 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: RKM33



    Also, the burner matters as much as the cdr's.

    I've got CD Architect.


    I think he means the hardware burner, not the software, but yeah, cd architect is great.

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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 00:49:02 (permalink)
    Taiyo Yudens here as well, burned with Plexwriter Premium burners using CD Architect.

    A spindle of 100 TY silver or whites is usually around $30 plus shipping.
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 10:25:42 (permalink)
    A spindle of 100 TY silver or whites is usually around $30 plus shipping.


    I found these online. What is the difference between the silver and the white?
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 10:56:49 (permalink)
    Does anyone have a link to the best CDR at the best price ?
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 11:23:32 (permalink)
    Personally, I haven't seen much difference between brands, though I haven't conducted scientific tests either.
    Usually, if I start getting errors it means my burner is going bad.
    I replaced a number of them, though my latest seems to be going strong.
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 11:37:34 (permalink)
    I have had bad problems with cheaply made discs. I created backing tracks to take with me on the road. I made several backup copies and tested them all on different systems at home. but when we got to the gig (5 hours away) the tracks would not play without skipping on the equipment they had. even changing out players didn't work.

    I only use TY's now and have never had that problem again.

    frank - rumleysmusic listed supermediastore.com above - that's where I get mine.

    white tops are for use in printers which print directly on the CDR, silver tops are quality CDRs which you have to glue labels on.

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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 13:24:00 (permalink)
    The silvers are ink jet printable as well as the white. They look really cool, but the ink smudges off easier when wet.
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 13:25:47 (permalink)
    This is where I get mine. Both silver and white are shown.

    http://www.supermediastore.com/cd-r-media-cdr-media-inkjet-printable-cdr.html
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 13:35:49 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Beagle

    I have had bad problems with cheaply made discs. I created backing tracks to take with me on the road. I made several backup copies and tested them all on different systems at home. but when we got to the gig (5 hours away) the tracks would not play without skipping on the equipment they had. even changing out players didn't work.

    I only use TY's now and have never had that problem again.

    frank - rumleysmusic listed supermediastore.com above - that's where I get mine.

    white tops are for use in printers which print directly on the CDR, silver tops are quality CDRs which you have to glue labels on.

    Sure...I get you, but if you tested them and they were fine, and then they didn't work on other players, that sounds like the other players.
    You think they got corrupted on the drive to the gig?
    All I'm saying is who knows what the cause is.
    I agree, when you find a brand you like just stick with it.
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 13:45:27 (permalink)
    yes, that's possible, but we tried different players that they had and it did the same thing. the next time we played there I used the TY's and they didn't have that problem.

    no, I don't think it got corrupted on the way to the gig.

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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 13:51:12 (permalink)
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    RE: Best CDs for mastering 2008/10/30 15:44:29 (permalink)
    when you find a brand you like just stick with it.

    The problem is that when it comes to CD-Rs, the brand is often nothing more than a printed label.

    Back in the day, I always bought TDK tape. It wasn't the greatest (didn't hold up to repeated use) but it was a good compromise between quality and price. The important thing was that it was consistent.

    So when the digital era came along, I naturally picked up TDK blank CD-Rs. Some of them were unusable. So I switched to Verbatim. Same story - most were OK for data, but many were bad. I went down the list of major brand names, and none of them were consistent.

    This inconsistent quality became especially apparent when I started burning DVDs. Back then, DVDs were about $2.00 each (IIRC), so it hurt to throw a bunch of them away. That's when I started researching the subject and discovered that media manufacturing had become a specialty business and that very few major brands are actually manufacturers of CD-R and DVD-R media.

    There are two freeware applications out there that can identify the actual manufacturer of a CD-R or DVD-R under test. One's called DVD Identifier, the other is called CD Identifier. Despite the similar names, they are not from the same author and are entirely separate applications.

    Using DVD Identifier, I examined random disks from a 100-count package of "TDK" DVDs. Three different manufacturers were represented in that stack, including Taiyo Yuden. I think this explains the inconsistency problem.

    So now I buy Taiyo Yuden-branded disks, so that I know where they actually came from. I have never had a single failure with TY disks.



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