Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3

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2014/06/04 11:33:31 (permalink)

Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3

I've been doing some research on the available horn section software to use with X3. Not interested in classical or movie type of sounds (i.e. East West Hollywood). So far Mojo: Horn Section seems to fit my needs, but looking for advice from other members who might have experience in this area. I have Sample Modeling's The Trumpet, Mr. Sax, and Clarinet and have used them on some big band arrangements, but I'm looking for something that has multiple instruments that play well in Unison and Harmony and sound like there different instruments. (I have detuned The Trumpet, for Unison parts)
 
Any advice?
 
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    garrigus
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/04 12:09:20 (permalink)
    Vir2's Mojo is a good choice and there's also Chris Hein Horns...
     
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/04 12:34:04 (permalink)
    You could also look at Garritan's JABB.

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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/04 14:33:05 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
    I have been using NI's Session Horns. This also comes in a "Pro" Version that increases the number of horns ( from 4 to10), phrases and articulations.. Check it out...Very nice....

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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/04 17:21:20 (permalink)
    LunaTech
    Hello,
     
    I have been using NI's Session Horns. This also comes in a "Pro" Version that increases the number of horns ( from 4 to10), phrases and articulations.. Check it out...Very nice....


    Thanks guys for leads. I quickly looked at some of the demos and it looks like I need to do a lot more research. NI's Session Horns looks very impressive!
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/04 17:29:40 (permalink)
    I've been using Killer Horns for years. There's probably way more intricate ones available now but it's always done the job for me. 
     
    I've found also that building a section up from parts usually results in more realistic sounds than using a horn section patch. So I usually copy the MIDI tracks out a few times, sometimes making small tweaks to humanize them, and then assigning individual horn patches to each one. SO there'll be a bari, alto, and tenor sax, for example. Plus it's more control when it comes to mixing them down.
     

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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/05 13:51:08 (permalink)
    ...wicked
     
    I've found also that building a section up from parts usually results in more realistic sounds than using a horn section patch. So I usually copy the MIDI tracks out a few times, sometimes making small tweaks to humanize them, and then assigning individual horn patches to each one. SO there'll be a bari, alto, and tenor sax, for example. Plus it's more control when it comes to mixing them down.
     



     
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/06 00:40:50 (permalink)
    I have absolutely zero experience with horns - no idea how to arrange or mix them. But I've been having some great fun with Native Instruments' Session Horns. There are some great melodic and rhythmic presets to get your started if like me you have no idea what you're doing with horns but need to add some horn color to a track. Here's a little example of a horn part I started playing with recently. It's just looped a few times - absolutely no mixing done at all, just an EQ preset on Session Horns, the bass sound is just a placeholder for now and the plucky sound I need to work on as well. Basically it needs a lot of work because the mix sounds like crap. Like I said I've have no idea how to arrange horns, but I know a thing or two about chords, so I've just given Session Horns a chord sequence to work with, chosen one of the Latin presets and set it to "rhythm only" so that it's playing my chords in a Latin rhythm & articulation. I really like what it's done! There are tons of presets in different styles and there are also lots of presets to set up the section in terms of which instruments play, which come forward in the mix, how the voicing brain handles too many notes etc. You can set the swing, dynamic settings and "humanize" the timing and the tuning.
     
    There are a ton of mix & effect presets as well. I think I'm just going to end up routing the parts to their own tracks and mixing them myself. I think you can only do this output routing if you have the full version of Kontakt. 
     
    Anyway I added a quick bass part and voila! I'm really liking fooling around with this library. Having never done anything with horns before I really feel like I could get obsessed with this and start overusing them 
    https://soundcloud.com/sh...-session-horns-example

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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/06 02:59:00 (permalink)
    Hi there:)
     
    A few weeks ago I've made some Playbacks for Teaching Lessons:
     
    https://www.hidrive.strato.com/lnk/OFvUwCQH
     
    Chris Hein Horns: Trumpet Section, Trombone Section and a few Saxes....
    Hope you like it;)
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/06 12:09:45 (permalink)
    sharke
    ......
     
    Anyway I added a quick bass part and voila! I'm really liking fooling around with this library. Having never done anything with horns before I really feel like I could get obsessed with this and start overusing them 
    https://soundcloud.com/sh...-session-horns-example


    That's sounds fun! I'm leaning towards Session Horns out of the all the candidates. Another tool for this 69 year old dude having fun with music! (61 years of playing music and ain't sick of it yet!)
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/06 22:13:39 (permalink)
    Hey Check out this video ...jump to the 2:45 mark
     
    http://new-type.asia/new-type.asia/ntbc_01_en.html
     
     
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/07 11:05:19 (permalink)
    By far, Broadway Big Band colletction is the best for non-orchestral horns. Interval sampling. Fun to play live! Even has multi for big octave unisons. Created by a Jazz guy.
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/07 12:01:26 (permalink)
    Jimbo 88
    Hey Check out this video ...jump to the 2:45 mark
     
    http://new-type.asia/new-type.asia/ntbc_01_en.html
     
     
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    That's a great video.  Love it.

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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/09 13:11:56 (permalink)
    I bought N.I.'s Session Horns Pro on the weekend and have only had the chance to try it for about 90 minutes. So far, the sounds seem pretty good and it's definitely been easy and fun to use because of its smart voice allocation and smart chord features. It will take more experimentation to really see what it can do, and what its true quality is.
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/15 12:52:04 (permalink)
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    Hi there:)
     
    A few weeks ago I've made some Playbacks for Teaching Lessons:
     
    https://www.hidrive.strato.com/lnk/OFvUwCQH
     
    Chris Hein Horns: Trumpet Section, Trombone Section and a few Saxes....
    Hope you like it;)
    Basie.
     


    FWIW, I purchased the Chris Hein Horn Pro Complete after doing more research. Yesterday I used it on a song I've been working on and CHH worked out great! Fits a different niche then my collection of Sample Modeling tools.
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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/17 06:39:08 (permalink)
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    By far, Broadway Big Band colletction is the best for non-orchestral horns. Interval sampling. Fun to play live! Even has multi for big octave unisons. Created by a Jazz guy.



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    Re: Best Horn Section for use with Sonar X3 2014/06/17 21:55:29 (permalink)
    Check out the horns I culled from NI's Session Horns (NOT PRO) in THIS SONG.
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