revnice1
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Best Parametric EQ?
I'm seeking a good parametric EQ that's hopefully not too complicated, opinions please. Thanks - rev
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 16:42:32
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Why not the LP-64 EQ? You really don't need a parametric for most things, btw. It's not always the best choice.
post edited by gswitz - 2015/06/06 17:01:50
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 16:48:10
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It's down to personal preference really. I like LP-64 EQ and UAD Precision EQ or sometimes Pultec Pro. Izotope Ozone and the one built into the Prochannel FX are pretty good too.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 16:54:59
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I like the Fab Filter Pro Q - http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-q-2-equalizer-plug-inIt's not cheap, but it's hard to see how you would need any other EQ, unless you want a 'colouring' one. It's simple to use but with a lot of options so it grows in line with your needs. Having said that, the Sonitus EQ that comes with Sonar is perfectly capable (if a bit ugly and lacking a spectrum analyser) and people say good things about the ProChannel EQ, if you're happy with the ProChannel workflow.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 17:05:22
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gswitz Why not the LP-64 EQ? You really don't need a parametric for most things, btw. It's not always the best choice.
LP-64 works for me. It's my personal choice.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 18:19:15
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How about the BT PEQ332 parametric equalizer from Nomad Factory? Best of luck.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 18:19:44
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I like the QuadCurve EQ because I need all the curves it offers.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 18:28:34
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You are after a (fully formed) curve eq?
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 20:59:24
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☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2015/06/08 16:59:31
There are actually very few ways to make an EQ, and very little to distinguish between them, especially once you're in the digital domain. "Best" is a far less useful concept in this area than "the one I intuitively understand how to operate the most".
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revnice1
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 21:11:28
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>the one I intuitively understand how to operate the most Yes. That may be the question better stated. I need to look at a few and see which ones I get along with.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 21:29:12
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I'd say pick one at almost-random, and resolve to stick with it for a bit. EQ is one of the areas where technique and learning how to listen will frequently outweigh the gear factor, I reckon.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 21:52:10
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That's what I plan to do. I like the look of the Nomad Factory stuff, fairly straightforward and intuitive.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 22:14:11
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☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2015/06/08 16:59:53
I would recommend against using a linear phase EQ as standard on all tracks. It will add latency and hit the CPU. I also really really recommend FabFilter Pro Q (2). It's my go-to EQ, incredibly simple to use but one of the most well-featured EQs I know when you dig in. However, since you don't mention skill level or budget, perhaps the QuadCurve ProChannel EQ that comes with Sonar Professional/Platinum would be a good start. It sounds quite good and despite some small niggles and personal preferences it's easy to use and reasonably well featured.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/06 22:23:13
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John T There are actually very few ways to make an EQ, and very little to distinguish between them, especially once you're in the digital domain.
With respect - digital has indeed eliminated a lot of variables from a technological standpoint - I disagree because many digital EQs emulate specific analog circuits. An equalizer that's inspired by a classic Pultec is going to respond very differently compared to a 1980s SSL channel strip emulation. Some analog EQs used inductors, which had a subtle midrange ringing not found in all-active types. There are also "surgical" digital EQs which avoid the "signature" of analog EQ. So there's no real "best" because the Pultec emulation that sounds fantastic when mastering might not be the best EQ to get rid of a whistling resonance in an amp sim while doing fairly drastic low and high end EQ. If every stage in a parametric could have a different topology, that would be one thing but usually with a parametric, when you "sign up" to a topology, all the stages work that way. As a practical example, if I need to master something with a great mix and all it needs is some gentle tonal correction, I'll go for a Pultec-type EQ (what the QuadCurve calls "pure"). But if I'm correcting an amp sim's resonances, I'll go for the Hybrid and for a mixed drum loop, the E-type if I need to deal with multiple resonances in the kit that don't require the same kind of drastic correction as amp sim resonances. This is why I appreciate the QuadCurve EQ's versatility, however the Waves H-EQ takes that concept one level further. Unfortunately the documentation that comes with it doesn't go into details of the various curves and what to expect...although ultimately you do have to let your ears decide, if you know an EQ's precise topology, you can save yourself a lot of trial-and-error time narrowing down your options. When people say they find other EQs to be better than the QuadCurve, I wonder if it's because they didn't choose the right QuadCurve option for the particular application, or happened to find an EQ that had the right characteristics for a particular application. Of course the QuadCurve doesn't offer every possible EQ curve, but it does have "the big four." One of the reasons I started the thread about whether people understood how the different curves functioned in the QuadCurve was to gauge whether an in-depth article would be useful to more than a minority of users.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 06:25:57
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Pro-Q 2 has a lot more options than the QC, but I don't always use them. My choice was mainly built on its interface (which in my humble opinion is unparalleled) and the fact that it doesn't tie me to the Pro Channel.
Some nice options it has that I ended up using are sidechaining its analyzer (so you can e.g. get an overlay of the kick while you're EQing the bass) and the spectrum freezer/grabber which let you freeze the analyzer spectrum and grab a peak and just pull it down.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 06:38:50
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I would love to have a VST Parametric EQ that would emulate the Peavey "Paramid" EQ in their steel guitar amps. I can come close but not exact using one of the Preamps in the POD Farm that has frequency controls but it not exactly. I often go direct through a POD X3 but even the EQ in it is not that great. Using an external stomp box EQ doesn't cut it either.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 07:32:46
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Perhaps something like Acoustica Nebula has that profile in it?
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 09:56:24
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I looked at Acoustica but for my use it doesn't offer any more than Pod Farm 2
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 12:01:02
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Pro-Q for me, as I've said a number of times in the last week or so. I am seriously considering upgrading to Pro-Q 2... Don't for get to install SPAN, assuming you haven't already done so cheers andy
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 12:38:15
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The original Pro Q is still great, but I have to admit I love the resizable window and I actually use the spectrum grab.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 17:03:18
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I went with the Pro Q on sight. It seems to have everything and the sound quality is good.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 18:06:00
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Congrats! If you can spend the money it's really an EQ you can't go wrong with! Enjoy :)
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 19:21:42
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Maybe I'm missing something, but the ProChannel EQ is parametric: it has frequency, amount, and Q controls.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/07 19:35:28
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konradh Maybe I'm missing something, but the ProChannel EQ is parametric: it has frequency, amount, and Q controls.
I think that is the quadcurve that people are referring to Konrad. It is certainly my choice.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/08 06:51:48
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tenfoot I think that is the quadcurve that people are referring to Konrad. It is certainly my choice.
No. Most are not referring to the QuadCurve EQ of the ProChannel. They are referring to products offered by Fabfilter (the Pro Q EQ and the Pro Q 2 EQ). But Craig Anderton does make considerable comments about the Pro Channel's Quadcurve EQ.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/08 09:53:37
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thomasabarnes
tenfoot I think that is the quadcurve that people are referring to Konrad. It is certainly my choice.
No. Most are not referring to the QuadCurve EQ of the ProChannel. They are referring to products offered by Fabfilter (the Pro Q EQ and the Pro Q 2 EQ). But Craig Anderton does make considerable comments about the Pro Channel's Quadcurve EQ.
I didn't say most - I said that those that mention the quadcurve are talking about the Pro Channel EQ. Happy to stand by my assertion at this stage:)
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/08 10:12:24
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Anderton If every stage in a parametric could have a different topology, that would be one thing but usually with a parametric, when you "sign up" to a topology, all the stages work that way.
Feature request : Make the curve for each band of the Quadcurve EQ switchable. (or infinitely variable, morphing from one to the next)
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/08 15:00:54
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tenfoot I didn't say most - I said that those that mention the quadcurve are talking about the Pro Channel EQ. Happy to stand by my assertion at this stage:)
OK. A misunderstanding on my part.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/08 17:06:55
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Quadcurve is suitable for most EQ needs. In fact, if one were to take the Quadcurve, Sonitus EQ, freeware like meldaproductions Mequalizer an expensive third party EQ and do a common EQ function like cutting 3db or so around 200 hz, all but the most trained ears would be hard pressed to tell the difference. I'm not saying there is no difference, but that we sometimes get so caught up in looking for "the best" that we forget that improved skill in using what we have trumps new toy every time. Quadcurve is my go to mostly because "it's there". Every track typically has the initial eq adjustment done with quadcurve unless some highly specialized function needs to be done. the exceptions to this are when i use plugins or fx chains that have EQ's included like when i use nectar 2 on vocals or px-64 on drums. The only EQ that i use with any regularity outsideof he ones that come with Sonar is not MAutodynamic, which offers much of the functionality of fabfilter at a fraction of the price.
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Re: Best Parametric EQ?
2015/06/09 02:08:00
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dubdisciple all but the most trained ears would be hard pressed to tell the difference.
I agree I chose Pro-Q (and now Pro-Q 2), not because of the sound quality, but rather the interface itself. Both the controls and the meters/analyser. It may be that there are better tools out there, but this is one I discovered after purchasing FabFilter Twin and watching the FabFilter videos. I just like the company and the guy that does their videos sounds like he knows what he is talking about...
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