monleo2014
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Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
My apology if this has been asked before. When adding Addictive drums to Splat (all synth) I have two choices - Mono tracks, 18 mono tracks are placed
- Stereo tracks, 10 stereo tracks are placed
What is the recommended way of doing things? Is there a tutorial available, or is there some track template available with routings and effects? Thanks in advance. Regards, Leon
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sausy1981
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 07:17:03
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Sir William
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
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I prefer to go the 18 mono tracks way. Using the stereo route, you end up with two kit pieces on one track. For example - Kick on track one left channel, with Snare on same track right channel. I like each kit piece on it's own track allowing easier further processing.
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monleo2014
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 07:43:12
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How ya doin mate, I recently did 2 videos on addictive drums in Splat over on my youtube channel. Check them out here ----> Thanks sausy1981, will checkt ou the video I prefer to go the 18 mono tracks way. Using the stereo route, you end up with two kit pieces on one track. For example - Kick on track one left channel, with Snare on same track right channel. I like each kit piece on it's own track allowing easier further processing.Thanks Sir William. Isn't it possible to add one additional stereo track to separate kick and snare?
post edited by monleo2014 - 2016/01/03 08:14:06
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 08:19:18
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Yep. 18 mono is the way to go if you want individual processing on each track. It's important you do NOT delete the room and overhead tracks as well. You lose a LOT of the sound, but you also should lower the volume on the overheads and room as well, or they overpower the other tracks. Think of AD2 as a REAL drum kit. When mixing a real drum kit, the overheads and room mic sliders are always set really low, otherwise you get a lot of bleed and extra things picked up in the mics.
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
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Yep. 18 mono is the way to go if you want individual processing on each track. It's important you do NOT delete the room and overhead tracks as well. You lose a LOT of the sound, but you also should lower the volume on the overheads and room as well, or they overpower the other tracks. Think of AD2 as a REAL drum kit. When mixing a real drum kit, the overheads and room mic sliders are always set really low, otherwise you get a lot of bleed and extra things picked up in the mics.
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monleo2014
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 08:58:50
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Yep. 18 mono is the way to go if you want individual processing on each track. It's important you do NOT delete the room and overhead tracks as well. You lose a LOT of the sound, but you also should lower the volume on the overheads and room as well, or they overpower the other tracks. Think of AD2 as a REAL drum kit. When mixing a real drum kit, the overheads and room mic sliders are always set really low, otherwise you get a lot of bleed and extra things picked up in the mics. Thanks Midiboy, if going mono a couple of questions remain: - I assume all tracks must be routed to a newly created stereo bus. Do all the default pan assignments remain or do I have to start panning each track Regards, Leon
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 08:59:24
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monleo2014 I prefer to go the 18 mono tracks way. Using the stereo route, you end up with two kit pieces on one track. For example - Kick on track one left channel, with Snare on same track right channel. I like each kit piece on it's own track allowing easier further processing. Thanks Sir William. Isn't it possible to add one additional stereo track to separate kick and snare?
You'll find that going the stereo route, in addition to the Kick/Snare pairing, the toms, hi-hat etc all end up as one side of a stereo track. Much better to go mono. The individual kit piece outputs from AD2 are routed perfectly if you do this. Also, please do check out Andrew Byrne's videos - they are very informative - although you may have a little trouble with his lovely Irish accent ;) MidiBoy also has a great tip there too.
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 09:01:27
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sausy1981 How ya doin mate, I recently did 2 videos on addictive drums in Splat over on my youtube channel. Check them out here ----> www.youtube.com/andrewbyrnemixing
Sorry Sausy1981 (Andrew Byrne) - I should've quoted you in my earlier post.
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 10:55:40
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You'll find that going the stereo route, in addition to the Kick/Snare pairing, the toms, hi-hat etc all end up as one side of a stereo track. Much better to go mono. The individual kit piece outputs from AD2 are routed perfectly if you do this. Also, please do check out Andrew Byrne's videos - they are very informative - although you may have a little trouble with his lovely Irish accent ;) MidiBoy also has a great tip there too. Thanks Sir William, testing it out now!
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sausy1981
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 14:20:12
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You can go mono for the kick, snare, hi-hats, toms and the flexi tracks and at the same time have stereo tracks for the overheads and room tracks.
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 14:50:52
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sausy1981 You can go mono for the kick, snare, hi-hats, toms and the flexi tracks and at the same time have stereo tracks for the overheads and room tracks.
Absolutely. I should have made my post clearer - that's how I work it. Great Videos by the way!
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/03 23:30:47
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depends on how you work, what kit pieces are busy etc. I go the 18 mono route, then group cymbals on 1 bus, snare on another, toms on another and bass another, Then room and overs sometimes. Sometimes I just go stereo drum bus.
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/04 06:21:05
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sausy1981 How ya doin mate, I recently did 2 videos on addictive drums in Splat over on my youtube channel. Check them out here ----> www.youtube.com/andrewbyrnemixing
Sorry Sausy1981 (Andrew Byrne) - I should've quoted you in my earlier post.
Now worries man, I appreciate it.
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Re: Best setup Addictive Drums in Sonar Platinum
2016/01/04 06:48:26
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monleo2014 Yep. 18 mono is the way to go if you want individual processing on each track. It's important you do NOT delete the room and overhead tracks as well. You lose a LOT of the sound, but you also should lower the volume on the overheads and room as well, or they overpower the other tracks. Think of AD2 as a REAL drum kit. When mixing a real drum kit, the overheads and room mic sliders are always set really low, otherwise you get a lot of bleed and extra things picked up in the mics. Thanks Midiboy, if going mono a couple of questions remain: - I assume all tracks must be routed to a newly created stereo bus. Do all the default pan assignments remain or do I have to start panning each track Regards, Leon
I find it easier to pan everything centrally in your drum mixer and use Sonar to pan it all where you want in the mix
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