Best single graphics card for triple monitor display?

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2015/01/28 07:56:15 (permalink)

Best single graphics card for triple monitor display?

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I currently run 2 LG 22" monitors on my Sonar Platinum DAW using an Nvidia GS8400 graphics card. I am in the process of decommissioning a second (none DAW) PC which also has two monitors which are positioned above my 2 DAW monitors. (See photograph of the set up in my avatar photo to the left ! )
So, this frees up some space, and would be perfect for a 30" monitor to go above my two current 22" monitors. However, I know little or nothing about graphics cards (they seem to be the domain of the gaming community across the web) so I thought I would come to the forum for advice. I need to run 3 independent monitors, on a single graphics card, preferably taking up no more space in my DAW PC case than the Nvidia GS8400 it will replace. Is anyone else doing this? What options would you recommend? Over to you guys...
 
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    bitflipper
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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/28 10:57:42 (permalink)
    I've never run 3 monitors myself, but have looked into it because I'd like to add a third display as a teleprompter in the vocal booth. Apparently, others have pulled this off without having to buy a new video adaptor, by enabling their motherboard's integrated video interface. Some good info here.


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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/28 17:10:01 (permalink)
    bitflipper
    I've never run 3 monitors myself, but have looked into it because I'd like to add a third display as a teleprompter in the vocal booth. Apparently, others have pulled this off without having to buy a new video adaptor, by enabling their motherboard's integrated video interface. Some good info here.


    ^This.... I run 2 vga monitors (one with dvi adapter) off my nvidia 430 and a 50inch plasma via hdmi from my motherboard with no problems whatsoever. I don't know exactly what the hardware criteria is for this to work but I posted a thread asking about it a few months ago and got great advice so I'm sure someone will be along shortly to help you out. Good luck!

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/28 17:45:28 (permalink)
    Hmm, I hadn't considered that you could potentially also use the original video connection from the motherboard alongside the two outputs from the graphics card.
     
    Also, I can test this out using one of the two 'decommissioned' monitors before shelling out for either the new big central monitor or another graphics card. I will have a go at this at the weekend and report back, thanks Dave and Wizard71...


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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/28 22:09:32 (permalink)
    Most new Mobos support 3 monitors with the on board graphics. I actually have all 4 connection choices. Not sure what the performance would be like with 3, but it certainly works fine with 2. 
     

    D-Sub port,    Optical SPDIF 
    DVI-D port      HDMI port
                         Display Port   
    Not exactly up on what a Display port is but it there. 
    post edited by Cactus Music - 2015/01/28 22:19:02

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/28 22:21:19 (permalink)
    I looked it up, interesting.. I didn't realize how cutting edge my mobo was. its a gigabyte- GA-Z97X-SOC Force
     
    DisplayPort is a digital display interface developed by the Video Electronics Standards Association(VESA). The interface is primarily used to connect a video source to a display device such as a computer monitor, though it can also be used to carry audio, USB, and other forms of data.[2]
    The VESA specification is royalty-free. VESA designed it to replace VGADVI, and FPD-Link. DisplayPort is backward compatible with VGA and DVI through the use of adapters.

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/29 10:59:37 (permalink)
    I run 4 monitors on my system through an NVS 510 card.
    http://www.nvidia.com/obj...-product-overview.html
    Also the NVS 450 is fan-less.
    I don't play games or anything but use my graphics card for video preview and also my DAW.
    I have no problems with it at all.

    post edited by garybrun - 2015/01/29 15:49:07

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/29 19:08:48 (permalink)
    Thanks guys, all good info...
     
    Garry


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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/31 21:01:30 (permalink)
    I use an ATI Radeon HD 5570 and run 3 monitors.  It wasn't very expensive and it doesn't need a very powerful power supply in the computer.

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/01/31 22:51:36 (permalink)
    R7-260X can run three monitors

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/01 10:28:31 (permalink)
    How's the noise level on that card, Jim? I looked it up and like all gaming video cards it's got a big honkin' fan on it.
     
    I'm generally sus-picious of gaming cards for DAWs, as they're famous for assuming that video is the most important thing happening in the computer and have no problem hogging the I/O bus. Do you actually use such cards in the systems you build? If so, do they make a measurable difference in audio performance?


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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/02 06:56:27 (permalink)
    Hi Bit,
     
    The R7-260x video card won't increase (or negatively affect) audio performance.
    They're active cooled... but some units are much more quiet than others.
     
    We offer the R7-260x as an option for clients looking to run three monitors... while also providing some hardware acceleration for video editing apps (Vegas Pro, Premier Pro, After-Effects, etc).
     
    For straight-up audio production:
    If you're not doing any video editing, a HD5450 (passive cooled) is perfect... 
    Onboard HD4600 graphics consumes a small amount of system RAM but also works fine

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/08 15:05:53 (permalink)
    townstra
    I use an ATI Radeon HD 5570 and run 3 monitors.  It wasn't very expensive and it doesn't need a very powerful power supply in the computer.


    Hi Townstra, well, I have managed to acquire a Dell UltraSharp 3007WFP 30" Widescreen LCD Monitor for a great price off eBay, along with an ATI Radeon 5570 card. It's clear that this card does support 3 monitors, but as the Dell DVI input is not DisplayPort, I am going to have to get a DisplayPort to DVI adaptor. There is a very big price differential between active and non-active adaptors, before I dive in, could you tell me if you have a DisplayPort adaptor and if so, what type you use. Thanks...
     


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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/08 15:48:00 (permalink)
    I'm not using a DisplayPort adapter for my monitors.  All of my monitors have VGA and DVI inputs so I didn't need that type of adapter.

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/08 22:22:04 (permalink)
    OK I have a question for those who might know. 
     
    I go with the on board graphics because it seems Video cards are for gaming and can also add more noise with the fan. The only benifit I can see is they also take the processing load off the CPU. But, how much of a load is there with something like a DAW? 
    Is it significant with a modern 4 core processor?  
    I figure that these modern Mobos which all support at least 3 monitors are up to the task and that only a hard core gamer would need the additional video power? Am I wrong. 
    I have a Zotac GT610 I didn't bother putting back in my latest build thinking there was no gain.
    Should I use it? It has the same 3 ports as the Asrock H97 pro 4  Mobo.   

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/10 09:20:04 (permalink)
    Look for videocards meant for workstations/offices that use heatsink instead of fans. The graphical load on a studio computer is next to nothing. No need for hardcore 3D Acceleration. Something like this works good: http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16814133255
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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/10 11:27:58 (permalink)
    So what your saying is if a mobo HAS a good on board video system, there is no point in adding the dedicated card?  
    What I'm getting at, is for a DAW there seems no point in adding a video card if most modern mobo's have 3 and 4  monitor capability and the hit on a modern processor is lite. 
     
    How much do you gain in video performance from a DAW perspective? 

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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/10 14:30:27 (permalink)
    Cactus Music
    So what your saying is if a mobo HAS a good on board video system, there is no point in adding the dedicated card?  
    What I'm getting at, is for a DAW there seems no point in adding a video card if most modern mobo's have 3 and 4  monitor capability and the hit on a modern processor is lite. 
     
    How much do you gain in video performance from a DAW perspective? 


    I wouldn't think one would gain anything adding a card to replace integrated graphics (unless there were not enough ports) in a DAW since there's simply no real video demand from a DAW.
    A video editing prog is a different story of course but while we're talking about graphics (at the risk of being accused of hijacking the OP) I'd like to ask a question:
    Why do I have graphics issues in X3 and Platinum and not in Sony Vegas Pro 12 (running 2 to 3 HD video tracks and several audio tracks)?
    With my integrated graphics (Intel Graphics 4000) in X3 and Platinum I sometimes get crackling when moving the mouse and my synth names in PRV won't truncate the name...IOW, unless the whole name shows it's just a blank box.
    My apologies if I'm too OT but didn't want to start what could become a negative thread for the trolls.
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    Re: Best single graphics card for triple monitor display? 2015/02/11 17:10:19 (permalink)
    Well, I managed to get an ATI Radeon HD5750 graphics card in the end. The installation went well, and in the last few minutes I managed to get all three monitors, including the Dell 30" monitor, up and running in 2560 x 1600 mode, and I must say, it looks awesome ! The fan on this card is quiet and about the same as my previous graphics card. By going on the cheap and using eBay to bid and win used (but as new) gear, I have managed to complete this upgrade to my DAW for just over £200 (say, $290 ) Thanks for all the helpful pointers and tips on this thread, I am happy to share my triple monitor upgrade experience with anyone via the thread. Now to get my screensets working better for me and onward with making music !


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