ryansheeler
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Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
Hi all,
I am working in X3 on a project that I did a lot of moving around of individual tracks for editing and such. Now I have a lot of empty time in the file so when I do a mix down, the export takes 30 minutes or more to finish, and I have a WAV file that's an hour long, when I should have a song file that's about 4 minutes in size.
I've scrolled through each track and there are no audio events on any track in the project past 5 minutes. How do I clean it up so the final mixdown file doesn't have all that extra time/space in it?
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/24 22:04:51
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ryansheeler
Hi all,
I've scrolled through each track and there are no audio events on any track in the project past 5 minutes. How do I clean it up so the final mixdown file doesn't have all that extra time/space in it?
Have you also checked for the following that occurs after the 5 minute mark: MIDI events (check with Event List view) Meter or time signature changes or marker events Tempo changes Stray lyric or text events (Though you would also find these with Event List view) Automation changes Etc You could use Navigator view to see which track(s) contains whatever is present after the 5 minute mark. There has got to be something there that Sonar is seeing as present... Could could also select all (CTRL - A) , then select smart tool and hold ALT while mousing after the 5 minute mark to split the tracks and then delete everything after the 5 minute mark.
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/24 22:16:26
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Yep I think there were some volume automations I didn't see - found a few green dots and dashed lines way downstream that I trimmed and removed. Lots better now. thanks!
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/25 15:45:46
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☄ Helpfulby BRainbow 2015/10/27 02:59:18
This is such a common problem that it might be time to ask for a feature that will wipe everything in the project beyond a selected now point. Something like clear-from-cursor-to-the-end.
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/25 19:16:39
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slartabartfast
This is such a common problem that it might be time to ask for a feature that will wipe everything in the project beyond a selected now point. Something like clear-from-cursor-to-the-end.
That's a good idea. I'll vote for the FR when I see it pop up  Adding a link to the FR back here will help direct future readers of this thread to it as well.
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/25 19:21:30
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slartabartfast
This is such a common problem that it might be time to ask for a feature that will wipe everything in the project beyond a selected now point. Something like clear-from-cursor-to-the-end.
What happens if there are note-on messages before the selected end and note-off messages afterward?
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/25 23:07:20
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slartabartfast
This is such a common problem that it might be time to ask for a feature that will wipe everything in the project beyond a selected now point. Something like clear-from-cursor-to-the-end.
What happens if there are note-on messages before the selected end and note-off messages afterward?
Automatically append an "all notes off message" or something. You guys figure it out. That's what you are getting paid for. This problem has been going on for a long time. it seems like every month somebody posts this same question.
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/25 23:26:14
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2015/10/26 06:57:41
Song begin/end markers (multiple sets for albums) would help as well since "dragging in the timeline" can be hit or miss depending on project resolution. The real issue I see with posts like this is people find out and waste time *after* they hit bounce/export/etc.
post edited by mettelus - 2015/10/25 23:37:45
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/26 00:32:49
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My audio often does not start at the beginning of a track and ends prior to where Sonar thinks the end of the song is. I solve this issue by, in track view, selecting only the audio to be exported. Like this:
CNTL-A to select all audio clips
Set From and Through points using the Selection toolbar
I ALWAYS set markers in my projects for beginning, end, verse1, chorus1, etc. which makes setting the from and through points a breeze, among other things...
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/26 00:34:15
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Re: Best way to remove empty space at end of a project?
2015/10/26 00:53:39
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Ctl+A to select all, then From = Now with Now time where you want the project to end, and then Cut Special, and check everything.
Or select a time range to export using Thru = Now and From = Start. I have the old Pre-X1 hotkeys F9, Ctrl+F9, F10 and Ctrl+F10 assigned to these select functions because they've always been indispensable for making fast selections to end or back to start from Now.
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