Bias Amp vs. Bias FX?

Ok...here's the skinny...which isn't good...but the PROGRAMS ARE...

Bias Amp is where you build and tweak your Amps...and it's extensive what you
 can do...Pro gives you the Amp Match module, the Pro Convolver, and the 
Glassy, Crunch, and Insane Amp packs....

Biax FX has all the pedals, etc...where you can build your own "pedalboards"
and integrates with Bias Amp for the best
of both worlds...obviously Pro of each being the best of each...

You also get lots of user and Artist amps, pedalboards, and presets etc...from the ToneCloud...

Currently on Sale for $179 each for Pro, or $79 Each for Standard...
Highly recommend the demos...right now...they are edging out Amp 4
and S-Gear for me...due mostly to the "Tweakability"...

S-Gear still is the "Out of the box" champion for me...
But Bias is a pretty serious threat to both S-Gear and A4...

BTW...if you find yourself interested in any of these I'll point you
to where it's the cheapest...just let me know...

clintmartin
So is there an all inclusive program?
I guess from what you say...Bias Amp Pro would be the best for me.
I don't fully understand what Bias FX is compared to pedalboard.
I guess demo all of them and find out...huh?

Bias Amp is where you build and tweak your amplifier..
Bias FX is where you build and add your pedalboard...Pro also includes Rack processors..
Bias Pedal is where you build and mod your own Distortion Pedal...

For a brief summary...so, by comparison, Amp would be the most like S-Gear, without the FX, but 
where you can "Change out" amp parts...i.e. Powertubes, Preamp Tubes, Transformers...etc..
to customize your amp...

clintmartin
hmmm. Well I'll wait and see if anything I need (or want) goes on sell. I'm honestly pretty content with everything, but I can never have too many guitar toys. I'm also kind of looking out for TH3.
I'm happy with both S-Gear and Amplitube 4. You can certainly cover a lot of ground with those.
Thanks for the info Larry.

Even if you don't plan to buy, I'd still recommend the demos...they're pretty fun...

I'd say get the lot, and the Pro versions of each, BIAS Pedal doesn't have a Pro version as yet, they have said it may be in the future and the upgrade from the 'Standard. version of Pedal will be the price difference between both. As CC said, BIAS Amp lets you build/tweak your amp very nicely, BIAS FX allows you to use the amps from and the you build in BIAS Amp, along with it's own good collection of Amps, plus of course has a comprehensive selection of effects pedals and racks. BIAS Pedal allows you to tweak your until your hearts content all your distortion needs, allowing you to get some truly awesome distortion tones from light breakup to full blown ass whooping rrrrrrrrr. All integrates i into BIAS FX
 
For me I have most amp sims including S-Gear 2 and Amplitube 3 and 4 and all extras (well, had I guess, I swapped all my Amplitube stuff for some Toontrack stuff not long after Amplitube 4's release though) and nothing touches BIAS for me, closest for me would be TH2, never really thought that much of S-Gear 2 though after the initial WOW, and the telling thing for me was that I'd always end up using something else, even if I started out with S-Gear 2. But that's the good thing about choice and personal preference, there something out there for everyone and every situation. But for me the whole BIAS range towers above most, and the sound is just gorgeous. I couldn't however do without TH2, it gets quite a bit of use, probably as much as BIAS and is my choice in a good number of situations, can't wait for TH3 :)
 
As CC says, you should at least give the Positive Grid stuff a good try, I think it would be a mistake not to, if you were only to try one, I would say BIAS FX, because it has just about everything you need. If you demo it/them, make sure you take full advantage of the time you have and really dig in and give it a good thrashing.

I'm not going to spend $500 on anything right now...that's for sure, but I may try Bias Amp and see if I even like it.

Richard Cranium
I would try BIAS FX if only going to try 1

Are the amps in Bias FX the same as Bias Amp?

No, they are different amps, although BIAS FX integrates the amps from BIAS Amp if you own it as well. BIAS FX has a different/new sound engine, and if you use an amp from BA in BFX, and compare it, it sounds better in BFX (without any effects, just straight amp and cab), although what sounds better is subjective, and that's not to say BA sounds bad by any means, it sounds awesome to me. BFX has the benefit of all the effects as well obviously, and the effects are pretty sweet.
 
If you try it out, make sure you have a good look around, also don't just load it up on a mono track, take advantage of the stereo stuff and dual amp paths etc, in the options there is a mono to stereo setting with 3 options, disable, left and right. For stereo/dual amp paths try disabling that, it sounds really sweet for dual amp path/stereo effects.
 
It may or may not be your thing, or to your liking, but only one way to find out. I never really looked back after trying BA when it came out, and then BFX, 99% of the time it's either of those or TH2, sometimes another amp sim just suits and nothing else works better in that situation, but that's not offten.

I don't think they are "different" amps...the only thing "different" is
that you CANNOT tweak them, other then the standard Amp
controls, and they are bound to FX...
that is why they show separately from the ones that are imported
from Bias Amp...but they are not "NEW"...they are called 

12 CLASSIC Amps - not 12 NEW Amps

They are the same "Classic" amps that are a subset of what's in Bias Amp...
you just can't tweak them, and that is why they are separate on the Menu.
 

Best year ever

DeeringAmps
 
Pretty much I'm a "plug'n'play" kinda guy.
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BIAS is pretty much 'plug and Play' if that's the way you want it to be, all the tweaking etc is not compulsory, though much fun. I only mess around with that side of things if I have the spare time adn or want a sound I can't get via the stock gear or through pre made stuff via Tone Cloud. Other than that it's pretty much plug and play, just like an amp, plug in, turn a few dials and away you go.
 
The amp matching feature is pretty cool, (there is a pack coming out shortly which sounds Awesome and includes a Marshall JCM900, a Mesa Roadking, and an Engl Fireball) and people have got great results matching from comercial CD's .wav files etc (there are also some not so great, but that has as much to do with the person doing it as the app itself) Again, I prefer to let others do the leg work and just grab what suits my purpose, as there are so many to choose from.

Well we will just have to agree to disagree :)

Amps Included in BIAS FX Desktop
http://help.positivegrid.com/hc/en-us/articles/205050729-Which-amps-effects-come-with-BIAS-FX-DESKTOP-vs-BIAS-FX-PROFESSIONAL-
59 Tweed Lux     Fender Blues Deluxe
66 AC Boost     Vox AC30
67 Blackface     Fender Bassman
69 Duo Verb     Fender Twin Reverb
77 Silver Tone     Roland JC120
69 Plexglas     Marshall JCM 800
ritish Rock 50     Orange OR50
2 Treadplate     Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier
04 Insane 5153     Peavey 5150
Acoustic Sim     Positive Grid create
GK 800     Gallien-Krueger MB800
69 Blue Line     Ampeg SVT Blueline
PhD Z     Dr.Z MAZ 38 Sr
94 match dc     Matchless DC30
Clean Master     Positive Grid Create
Super Sonic     Fender Supersonic
British Rock 50     Orange OR50
69 Plexiglas     Marshall JCM 800
British OR30     Orange AD30
Grid Crunch     Positive Grid Create
Lanny 50     Laney LC50
Modded Plexi     Modded Marshall JCM 800
Pushed Tweed     Modded Fender Blues Deluxe
92 Treadplate     Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier
04 Insane 5153     Peavey 5150
Ecstacy 101     Bogner Ecstasy 101
German Fire     ENGL Fireball
High Gain EL34     Positive Grid Create
Insane Satan     Positive Grid Create
Modded Mark IIc+     Modded Mesa Boogie Mark IIc+
Snake's Lead 800     Positive Grid create
Acoustic Sim     Positive Grid create
Acoustic Amp     Positive Grid create
Fat Acoustic     Positive Grid create
GK 800     Gallien-Krueger MB800
69 Blue Line     Ampeg SVT Blueline
700 RB     Gallien-Krueger 700RB
Bass 360     Acoustic 360 Bass Amp
Supra Bass     Positive Grid create

"(TB I assume means "Throw Back")"
Tres droll mon ami; I'm still chuckling...
However, TB refers to the Top Boost circuitry.
Slightly different than the "Tone Stack" used by Fender, Marshall, etc.
Originally the AC-30 had no tone controls, just the "CUT" that cancels highs in the phase inverter.
The TB or "Top Boost" model was added later.
There is a mod for adding Top Boost to non-TB 30's.
Evidently Brian May does not like the phase lag introduced by the TB circuit.
 
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