RobertB
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Bit by a Pit Bull
It happened on a service call yesterday. The customer said the dog was chained, and I followed her out the back door. Well, he was on a chain, but it was too long. He shot past her, and before I even saw him, he was sinking his teeth into my right wrist and looking me in the eye. No bark or warning of any kind. My first thought was @##*^!!! that hurts!. I retreated back into the house and headed for the first aid kit in my van. My second thought, as I was looking at the exposed tendons through the holes in my skin, and losing all sensation in my hand, was hoping this didn't impact my guitar playing. As of this evening, the wound seems to be healing properly, but the doctor says some superficial nerve damage may be permanent. I can hold a pick, but I can't entirely feel it yet. Hoping for the best.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 17:59:30
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I hope you get full feeling back Robert. I also hope you press charges. That's complete BS...
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 18:04:39
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Ouch! All my best wishes for a complete recovery, Bob. And DO press charges!
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 18:24:47
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Company policy what it is, then I would say that the company does not allow anyone else to go there without police escort. And that be about it. (so they can shoot if necessary). Hope it all goes well healing also.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 18:28:10
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PIT BULLS... cannot be trusted.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 18:39:56
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That bloody animal wants putting down. And her pit bull. Hope you make a complete recovery Bob.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 19:28:15
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If only, Straummy, ol pal. If only.
Too bad the pooches always take the rap for those dimbulbed and misguided owners who breed them, chain them and train them to be vicious.
Human beings...why bother?
Hope you heal up perfectly, Robert.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 19:28:47
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The woman was a surprised as I was, Steve. Her husband had led her to believe it was safe to go into the yard. Believe me, he was getting an earful on the phone, and I'm sure he got more when he got home. As soon as she realized what was happening, and it was fast, she pulled the chain to get the dog away from me. And she was behind me very quickly with alcohol to wash the wounds. I think she was more freaked out than I was. I have been exposed to hundreds of Pit Bulls, and you are quite right, Bat. You can't trust them, but they are generally fine if the owner is present. Most exhibit some warning behavior, and if there is any question, the dog is contained in some way. The vast majority of large breed owners contain their dogs before I enter the home. I hate Yorkshire Terriers. Everybody down here has them, and they seem to have no idea what a nasty disposition these dogs have. I've been bitten by several of them, but they are mostly nuisance bites. Little nips around your ankles. Nothing compared to what an 80 lb Pit can inflict. This dog was trained. I realize there are some crap neighborhoods around here, but I don't think people fully grasp the implications of having a volatile weapon in their yard. The required forms have been filed with the state of Texas. We'll see what happens from there.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 19:29:26
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I think you need to sue for damages some new gear! Good thing you were able to get the dog to let you go.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 21:27:04
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sorry to hear that Bob! hope your arm heals quickly and fully!
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 21:37:07
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Whoa! Sorry to hear that, Bob. Best wishes on a quick and complete recovery.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 21:52:43
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My sympathies buddy! I hope everything works out for you Bob. That is a nightmare come true. Keep us informed about your progress! Best wishes!!! now my wrist hurts
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 22:08:41
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Sorry to hear that. I hope you fully recover. Remember that even if you do suffer some kind of permanent damage, as a guitar player you'll work around it. Look at Django Reinhardt and Jerry Garcia. I know pit bulls are a controversial topic with a lot of emotion on both sides. I've worked with dogs for over 10 years, including dozens of pit bulls, and my take on them is this. They can be the sweetest dogs imaginable and very often are. But when they do snap, they can do a lot more damage in a far shorter time than other breeds. They have a lot of power. I've seen and experienced a lot of "incidents" with pit bulls and my personal feeling is that they do tend to escalate things more than other breeds. Like if two non-pit bulls are playing and it gets a bit rough and there's a lot of growling going on, they tend to keep it within a certain limit. But I've seen pits get into play fights and the growling starts and they just don't know when to stop and before you know it they're savaging each other pretty brutally. Bear in mind this is a generalization and a statistical pattern I've noticed - there are exceptions. Personally I think they're unsuitable as family pets if there are kids in the house. Any dog is capable of snapping if provoked enough - the difference is that when a pit snaps, the potential for serious injury or even death is much higher than with most other breeds. If a chihuahua goes for your kid's neck then you're going to be able to get it off fairly quickly without much serious damage done. If a pit goes for your kid's neck there could be life changing injuries or worse before you manage to get it off - if you can. You might even have to resort to stabbing the dog with a knife, although there are other ways to get a dog to release its prey (nip the base of its tail hard or lift its hind legs up). To tell you the truth though I'm more frightened of chihuahuas - lol! They can be horrible vicious little creatures and they have been responsible for more biting incidents among my employees than any other breed. They never do much damage in the way of injuries, but once you've been bitten by one, they make you nervous. Like when you're reaching for their collar to put the leash on and they're giving you the stink eye and their lip is curling up. Once bitten twice shy! But pits...always be very careful around them because of their strength.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 22:09:56
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I'm glad to hear she was both surprised and responsive. And excuse my lifelong kinship with dogs...but they do not belong at the end of a chain. And it is only due to mean spirited and feeble minded humans who breed or train them to live at that chain's end. Again, hope you mend quickly, ol pal.
PS: agree with Sharke that many other smaller breeds need to be watched as well. The meanest dog I ever knew was a Boston Terrier. And now we have one...but she's a sweetie.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 22:55:35
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Hope you recover quickly and fully.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 23:30:52
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yorolpal I'm glad to hear she was both surprised and responsive. And excuse my lifelong kinship with dogs...but they do not belong at the end of a chain. And it is only due to mean spirited and feeble minded humans who breed or train them to live at that chain's end. Again, hope you mend quickly, ol pal.
PS: agree with Sharke that many other smaller breeds need to be watched as well. The meanest dog I ever knew was a Boston Terrier. And now we have one...but she's a sweetie.
My take on Boston Terriers: total instigators!
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 23:49:04
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Very true Sharke. In most situations, you have 15-20 seconds to size up the situation. That may not seem like much, but it's enough for you, the owner, and the dog to establish a position. If it's going South, most owners put the dog in a room, or otherwise contain him. More often than not, the dog picks up on the vibe from its owner that I should be there. Some get a little too comfortable, and it is difficult to work because the dog wants to put its head in my lap  . On many occasions, dogs that don't normally agree with strangers have been incredibly comfortable with me, and shocked the heck out of their owners. Pits can go either way, but as you say, they are very strong. If they are comfortable with you, it's probably an ok situation. If not.... I don't do Dobies, period. They are predictable and not good. Same with Rotts. Labs, Collies, etc are fine. If you get on the bad side of those, you probably deserve it. Little dogs are generally more scary. You're right again, Chihuahuas can be a real pita. Fortunately, boots and loose fitting pants are a good defense. On positive note, I played for about 30 minutes tonight. It hurt like hell, but it felt good.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/01 23:57:08
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On positive note, I played for about 30 minutes tonight. It hurt like hell, but it felt good. Thanks for the info Bob!
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 00:53:56
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Yup...Boston's do seem willful and "alphas". Ours was a rescue from a puppy mill. She was destined to be a "momma". In fact she'd already had a litter when she was just a year old. She had multiple medical and social issues which took us a couple years to sort out. But now she could not be a better companion...except for how she bosses our totally sweet, compliant Boxer, Buss. Pip, the Boston, as you might expect, runs the show. But now, with constant "parenting" they are best pals and playmates. But, Buss knows who's boss. Pip's nickname is the tiny terror. Instigator is just about right:-)
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 01:27:02
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Maybe this is just the universe giving you a sign that you should go out and buy a Pit Bull amp?
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 07:09:40
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Wishing you well and you should definitely go for charges, I hate to see dogs maligned when the owners are to 100% blame but once you have a badly trained and violent dog it is hard to correct. Positive vibes on your healing.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 07:59:14
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are you out of work for a while? how long? does your company give you sick time?
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 08:56:54
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It sucks that this is going to be a constant "hazard of the job", but wish you the best of luck on the recovery Bob!!
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 09:20:28
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<RANT> ALL terriers are a potential problem, and the smaller they are, the BIGGER the potential problem. I had "Jacks" for a number of years, raised about 27 pups all told. The first one, Derby (I loved that dog), I had sused in about 5 minutes when my wife brought her home. I told her that if she was a hound pup I have to euthanize her. NO WAY she would have made it in a pack of hounds; she (or probably your "best" hound would end up dead). There's no room in a hound for aggressive behavior towards other dogs (or, obviously, people). While I agree that MOST problem dogs can be traced back to bad handling (problem people), the "Pits" have been bred to FIGHT; that's what the "Pit" is - the arena. The breed exists to "please" a long, long line of "PROBLEM" people. I'm sorry, euthanize them all. I've seen first hand the result of "good" dogs that "accidentally" grabbed a child BY THE FACE. "They didn't mean to do it, they got excited, grandma shouldn't have opened the gate"; etc., etc.. A "pit" is a hand grenade with a faulty pin. "No firearm is ever 'unloaded' T, even when the bolt is out, you still treat it like its loaded". That's how I was trained, and the "Pit" is ALWAYS LOADED! </RANT> Bob I sincerely wish you a full recovery. Tom
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 09:21:57
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2014/07/02 11:04:46
Q. How can you tell if a dog is a Pit Bull?
A. Look for key identifiers like a low forehead, barrel chest, bandy legs and an aggressive stance, as well as there usually being a thick chain around the neck. If those features are present, chances are that the dog they have with them is a Pit Bull.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 09:24:16
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Sorry to hear that Bob, bad business. Over here, various breeds now have a bad rep because ****heads have decided they make them look 'tough'..the Staffordshire Bull Terrier can be a lovely dog but I give them all a very wide berth around here, especially when they're accompanied by a Ned in a baseball cap and jogging pants. The usual reaction I get when I say I own a Jack Russell terrier is 'ooh, nasty, snappy little dogs', but Rocky is anything but, he's the softest dog you can imagine.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 11:13:31
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This is the reason pitbulls and associated breeds are now banned in the UK. We've had too many deaths of babies and young children recently caused by bull terriers. As Tom said, pitbulls were deliberately bred to fight and you can't take that mental attitude away from them with a "loving home".
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 11:49:10
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Sorry to hear that Bob. I hope your hand heals back ok. I think Pit Bulls and other aggressive breed owners should be held to certain rules if they insist on owning them. When an attack happens, it isn't usually the owner who looses a body part. It could have been much worse. You could have been this guy....
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 11:54:29
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Don't feed the tigers and don't....well...do this.
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Re: Bit by a Pit Bull
2014/07/02 12:11:09
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I was out jogging a couple of months ago and had a loose Pit Bull home it's radar in on me. It was across the street and started coming at me with that "attack" look in its eye. I stopped and yelled at the dog thinking that would break that trance, but it didn't. Kept coming at me, just at a slow approaching pace. I finally decided to try an old trick that has worked in the past, to reach down and pretend like I was picking up a rock to throw. Well....even that didn't work, it kept coming, now with teeth bared. I thought I was cooked. Just then a car came speeding down this residential road and it spead out of the way of the car and went the other direction. I got out of there fast. I never located who's Pit Bull that was, even though I returned in a car later, looking for the dog.
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