Topographic4001
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BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
In my case, yes. I have a Windows 7 64-bit PC. For the past seven years or so' I've had both Sonar 32-bit and 64-bit DAW's running on my computer because certain 32-bit VST's were not 64-bit (useable). With BitBridge, included in Sonar X2 Producer, I could load and play my 32-bit VST's in 64-bit Sonar X2, but they could not save properly. Issues like' not remembering the patch I saved in a project, made BitBridge all but useless to me. The biggest problem is that it locks up your computer when you go to save each project with 32-bit plugins inside of a 64-bit project. I stuck a crow-bar in my wallet and purchased JBridge (which is Sonar compliant). Now, I can use my IK Multimedia SampleTron/SampleMoog, Waldorf PPG 3.V and Sonic Projects OB-X Pro II inside 64-bit Sonar X2... with no issues. The only temporary problem I encountered involved making sure I selected the VST with the jbridge' name (in front of the VST name) - not the original name of the VST which was still in my Insert Soft Synths' menu. Lastly, my free VST's created by unknown people around the world... also work properly with JBridge. I have the Ensoniq SQ-80 VST which is free for anybody. Works like a charm now in 64-bit.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/16 09:27:20
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Interesting read overall. To bring back some of my VST's from the dead, perhaps I should try JBridge too. I've just had a boycott of my own against it because I feel that BitBridge should do everything I need it to do. After all, it was developed by a reputable company with top-notch software programmers, right?
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doncolga
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/16 12:08:15
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I may do the same. I have some Waves and UAudio Plugins that would be nice to bring back.
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Leadfoot
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/16 12:34:16
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I have the Focusrite LiquidMix, MTron, and Kitcore, and they were all just about unusable in 64bit before purchasing the jbridge. Now they work like a charm. Jbridge is definitely worth the money, for me anyway.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/16 13:40:36
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Another +1 for Jbridge, I’ve been using it for a couple of years now.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/16 13:56:09
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Yes another thumbs up for jBridge. Most of my stuff is now 64 bit, except for Drumagog and it works better with jBridge than Bit Bridge. The guys over at Wave Machine Labs have assured us that a 64 bit version of Drumagog for Windows is on the way, it's already been released for MAC as of last week.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/16 14:09:47
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If you're running 32Bit plugins that are flaky when bridged via BitBridge, then it's absolutely worth the $20 to purchase jBridge. Between both bridging options, most all 32Bit plugins will work in Sonar x64.
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doncolga
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/16 14:44:17
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I just picked it up and got the e-mail...woohoo! But alas...I'm not home at the moment...so I'll wait a little more. Hopefully all my 32 bit stuff will play good with that. That'd be awesome.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 01:57:29
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Been using it long before I started trying out X2, and jBridge has always been well worth the money, even way back then...
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Jeff M.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 02:29:52
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Yeah, I like that Ensoniq SQ-80 VST, too. I still use my ESQ-1 as a MIDI controller ..after I pulled it apart, cleaned all the contacts and soldered in a battery pack to get it running again. That SQ-80 brought back fond memories - pretty easy to program, too.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 02:54:50
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Leadfoot I have the Focusrite LiquidMix, MTron, and Kitcore, and they were all just about unusable in 64bit before purchasing the jbridge. Now they work like a charm. Jbridge is definitely worth the money, for me anyway.
MTron, unless you have the really old, original version is now 64 bit. Check you account and you should find the upgrade files. Kitcore is a sad case, so much potential but all development came to a grinding halt as soon as Sonoma Wire Works bought out Submersible. It used to be my go-to but I have not even installed it on my new DAW. I may do so at some stage as the midi is particularly good, even if the sounds have been eclipsed by my current drum go-to Superior Drummer. For the few remaining 32 bit VSTs I still use (Minimonsa, B4 II mostly) I find Bitbridge works fine. I do have a Jbridge license but do not have it installed at the moment.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 06:19:10
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Topographic4001
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 09:07:04
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doncolga I just picked it up and got the e-mail...woohoo! But alas...I'm not home at the moment...so I'll wait a little more. Hopefully all my 32 bit stuff will play good with that. That'd be awesome.
You'll be happy about it. I was worried that all the work I did over the years' would have to be re-edited to instruct Sonar to load (each) new wrapped plugin with the (jbridge in the title' instead of the original) and resaved; happily it auto detects plugins within an older project when you open it, and will now prompt you to choose the JBridge version of it - then save it. Phewww...
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Topographic4001
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 09:13:48
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Jeff M. Yeah, I like that Ensoniq SQ-80 VST, too. I still use my ESQ-1 as a MIDI controller ..after I pulled it apart, cleaned all the contacts and soldered in a battery pack to get it running again. That SQ-80 brought back fond memories - pretty easy to program, too.
I was surprised how well the SQ-80 VST was done.... for something free! I had two SQ-80's back in the late 80's MIDI'd up for more polyphony - this VST sounds exactly like them; with all its granular-like' nuances. If the designer put effects into it, it would be disingenuous to that instrument... it had none.
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Wouter Schijns
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 09:20:01
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On my X2 all 32bit is running well without any bridge....when installed in 'Programm Files X86', guess this folder is the Windows location for 32bit software. All 32 is in this folder and have it set/scanned in Sonar Preferences /Files / Folder... Just dropping this, no experience on bridges and sure they're great.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 11:08:56
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Wouter Schijns On my X2 all 32bit is running well without any bridge....when installed in 'Programm Files X86', guess this folder is the Windows location for 32bit software. All 32 is in this folder and have it set/scanned in Sonar Preferences /Files / Folder... Just dropping this, no experience on bridges and sure they're great.
If you are running 64 bit Sonar and using 32 bit plugins you will be using a bridge even if you do not realize it. Sonar will automatically invoke bitbridge when you load a 32 bit plug in, unless you have JBridge and have told Sonar you want to use it for that plugin. If you are running 32 bit Sonar 32 bit plugins do not need to be bridged. Unlike Bitbridge JBridge can work "in reverse" and bridge 64 bit plugins into a 32 bit application.
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LunaTech
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/17 11:42:46
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Glyn Barnes
Wouter Schijns On my X2 all 32bit is running well without any bridge....when installed in 'Programm Files X86', guess this folder is the Windows location for 32bit software. All 32 is in this folder and have it set/scanned in Sonar Preferences /Files / Folder... Just dropping this, no experience on bridges and sure they're great.
If you are running 64 bit Sonar and using 32 bit plugins you will be using a bridge even if you do not realize it. Sonar will automatically invoke bitbridge when you load a 32 bit plug in, unless you have JBridge and have told Sonar you want to use it for that plugin. If you are running 32 bit Sonar 32 bit plugins do not need to be bridged. Unlike Bitbridge JBridge can work "in reverse" and bridge 64 bit plugins into a 32 bit application.
According to the J's Stuff site, It does work in reverse. Just an FYI.. See Below: "Using inter-process communication mechanisms, it aims to make it possible to run 32bit plugins in 64bit hosts, 64bit plugins in 32bit hosts, or even bridging 32bit plugins to 32bit hosts, allowing to overcome the memory limitations of a single 32bit process, in this last case.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/18 00:38:12
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I found that the bridging in reaper is useful for certain synths if I rewire reaper to use these synths in sonar. Proteus VX, Firebird the new free version, Voyager, zynaddsubfx and sonigen modular all work when I rewire them through reaper now I tried the demo of j bridge but I may not want to use these synths more than what I would with this method. If so I will break down and get J bridge I am finding it fun to play voyager again.
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Re: BitBridge and JBridge - Do you need to spend the 20 dollars on JBridge ?
2013/08/18 03:00:31
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Leadfoot I have the Focusrite LiquidMix, MTron, and Kitcore, and they were all just about unusable in 64bit before purchasing the jbridge. Now they work like a charm. Jbridge is definitely worth the money, for me anyway.
I see that you have the liquidmix working in Sonar using jBridge. I've been trying to get this to work for some time and would appreciate if you could share how you achieved this as at the moment my liquidmix is gathering dust
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