Blank waveform display?

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2010/07/29 06:38:17 (permalink)

Blank waveform display?

Hello guys,

I'm using Sonar 8 and currently I'm having a problem that's really affecting my work. A project crashed and I had it backed up but when I reloaded the file, the recordings are all in place but they're missing the waveform. It's simply blank.

Any ideas on how I can get back the waveforms?
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    ericyeoman
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 06:40:06 (permalink)
    Hi there,

    There's some useful stuff in this thread:

    http://forum.cakewalk.com...87&mpage=1#1986957


    HTH,

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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 07:25:48 (permalink)
    For individual files you can try doing the following - Process>audio>gain and then do a 0db gain change.  This should rebuild the waveform.    

    This has worked for me in the past but I don't know what you would do for a whole project.
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 09:01:42 (permalink)
    I think you hide the tracks. I havnt used v8, but I think it will be the same.

    try this way,...
    press M key, or dropdown tracks on Manu, select tracks manager,
    select all tracks, then click OK.

    this can do the trick.


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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 09:04:42 (permalink)
    you can also find the manager at tool bar on your project.
    from right to left, the 3rd icon.

    hope this help.

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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 10:29:54 (permalink)
    Try emptying your Picture Cache.

    * Automatically Empty the Cakewalk Picture Cache
    http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/tip.asp?ID=13

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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 10:39:41 (permalink)
    All you have to do is redraw the waveforms. No need to go running around your computer looking for cache files.

    Click on a clip
    Ctrl-A Right click on any selected clip
    Properties
    Clip Properties
    Audio Files
    Recompute Picture(s)
    post edited by 10Ten - 2010/07/29 12:56:27
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 12:47:18 (permalink)
    For individual files you can try doing the following - Process>audio>gain and then do a 0db gain change.  This should rebuild the waveform.    

    You don't want to do destructive gain techniques just to redraw a wave file. If you raise the gain to 0, you'll have no headroom for further processing and you may raise your noise floor unnecessarily.
     
    Gain is not the issue. Just right click the clips that have no wave picture and select Clip Properties > Audio Files > Recompute Pictures
    Or you can delete your pic cache and have sonar rebuild all the wave files. Either one will work. but do not do anything with the gain, as this has nothing to do with your problem..
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 12:53:44 (permalink)
    For individual files you can try doing the following - Process>audio>gain and then do a 0db gain change. This should rebuild the waveform. This has worked for me in the past but I don't know what you would do for a whole project.
    Not a good idea at all. This problem is not due to no audio it is due to no picture of the wave form showing up on the track/s. Listen to CJ here or Scott.

    Best
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/29 22:32:21 (permalink)
    haha, cj's answer is same as 10ten's,

    but 10ten is the first person of the answer.


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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/30 00:31:52 (permalink)
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    For individual files you can try doing the following - Process>audio>gain and then do a 0db gain change.  This should rebuild the waveform.    

    You don't want to do destructive gain techniques just to redraw a wave file. If you raise the gain to 0, you'll have no headroom for further processing and you may raise your noise floor unnecessarily.
    While your answer is the correct one for sure, I think what he meant by that was not raising the gain to 0db, but applying a 0db gain CHANGE, which would have a null effect. But it would also mean re-processing the audio which is also undesirable. 


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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2010/07/30 00:37:46 (permalink)
    Now that you put it like that, I see what he was saying
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/06 22:05:50 (permalink)
    Hey guys,

    I keep losing my waveform pictures  in SP 8.5.3.  I open a project, and only some of the waveforms are visible.  I know I can click a clip and recompute the waveform, but this is too frequent a problem for that solution.

    This is a project with many clips and tracks (I keep all my takes).  I tried bumping up the picture cache limit to 1500 MB, and that didn't work, either.  Is there a limit to what limit you can set in the AUD.INI?
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/06 22:31:41 (permalink)
    ****e.  Now it refuses to recompute a picture for the most recent clip I'm working on.
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/06 23:05:48 (permalink)
    I miss reader1! even though it was probably strikinglyhansom or some other creative regular.

    You should try archiving uneeded tracks, that cleans up the mess.

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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/06 23:13:54 (permalink)
    Saxon1066


    ****e.  Now it refuses to recompute a picture for the most recent clip I'm working on.


    Did you delete everything in your picture cache as has already been suggested above? Sonar will just recompute waveforms as needed.
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/06 23:21:44 (permalink)
    Yes, I have archived all unneed tracks and deleted everything in the picture cache.  I just went through that whole process again, rebooted, and I still don't get all my pictures, and I still cannot recompute one of the clips.  Any other ideas?
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/06 23:49:08 (permalink)
    Weird. I've never had that happen to me (knock on wood). Do you put tracks in folders and hide tracks you're not using?
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/06 23:59:47 (permalink)
    Yes, I put archived tracks in folders, but not tracks I'm using.  Actually, I just reset the picture cache size to 500MB, which is where is was originally (is that the default?  I can't remember), and now I can recompute pictures again.  I think 8.5.3 on my system likes the cache set to that, or something . . .?  It just doesn't work as well when the cache size is bigger.  I wonder why that is?
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/07 00:23:18 (permalink)
    Just thought I'd add that garrigus posted a link to his site under Automatically Empty the Cakewalk Picture Cache that you might want to take a look at. The article details how to create a .bat file that will delete all the image files in the picture cache when opened. I added the file extension WTR, but otherwise followed his instructions to the letter. I added the file to my startup and put a copy on my desktop. So every time my computer reboots/starts the picture cache is automatically emptied. I can also manually empty it by double clicking the .bat file on my desktop. Pretty nifty.
    post edited by Chappel - 2011/06/07 21:10:26
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    Re:Blank waveform display? 2011/06/07 05:09:39 (permalink)
    I will keep the Garrigus page on favorites in case needed.  I have now set my picture cache size to 1000MB--and am having no problems!  All of my waveforms are pictured.  I think 1500 was too big for some reason and 500 too small.  Seems to have been a matter of finding the right setting for my system and projects.
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