drewfx1
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 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/05 13:22:25
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Looks interesting but you could easily ruin audio or a mix with it too.
does that help?
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drewfx1
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/05 13:25:32
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Well it is true that I don't need help ruining audio or a mix! 
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/05 13:37:34
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You'd just have to be careful is all. I could see where it might open up a can of worms. I'd really have to use my ears to make sure I wouldn't be doing more harm than good by over using it.
That's where I could see myself running into problems.
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drewfx1
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/05 13:41:15
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I was thinking more in terms of creative processing than surgical.
Or in restricting an effect to a limited frequency range like the way a bass chorus pedal only adds chorus to the high end.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/05 13:47:02
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I could see the possibilities used that way.
Go for it!
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drewfx1
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/05 14:28:17
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carl
I could see the possibilities used that way.
Go for it!
Good job talking me out of it! I think I'm going to have to find some time to try the demo and see if the VST hosting aspect is stable with my favored plugins.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/06 01:03:15
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Sorry for the life of me I can't find any reason not to have that. In fact if I can't get the song "I can't fight this feeling anymore" from REO out of my head, I'm doomed to be installing that soon....
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/06 10:01:27
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/09/06 17:53:35
Has anyone tried this yet - I think I will get the demo, but I don't need any more plug ins at the moment, so was hoping someone had tried this and decided it:-
1) Didn't work
2) Too complicated
3) Not worth the money
Any thoughts as yet??
Nigel
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/13 09:54:42
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downloaded, installed the demo and played with for a brief time - uninstalled.
I have to say I did not like this at all and I don't think it would have been worth all the time to learn to use it as intended -I just don't see what use it would be to the way I work.
Anyone else tried this??
Nigel
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drewfx1
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/13 13:07:05
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Bajan Blue
downloaded, installed the demo and played with for a brief time - uninstalled.
I have to say I did not like this at all and I don't think it would have been worth all the time to learn to use it as intended -I just don't see what use it would be to the way I work.
Anyone else tried this??
Nigel
Trying it out is still on my list to do, but I haven't gotten to it yet. Curious what you tried to use it for?
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/13 14:38:35
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I just tried it on a few demo tracks - after a brief time I thought to myself that:-
1) For general processing - compression / eq etc - what I have and use now works perfectly well so I could see no advantage
2) For creative sculpting of tracks, again what I have now is more than adequate and I could not see what advantage - HOWEVER a caveat - perhaps once you have spent a great deal of time learning this plug in, it could be good - who knows - I decided I did not have the time and saw no speedy and intimidate advantage over what I have and use - I'm sure someone will get this and love it - but it just didn't rock my boat!
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SuperG
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/13 15:56:33
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Looks like it might be useful for mastering - not so sure about tracking or mixing.
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/13 16:59:54
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SuperG
Looks like it might be useful for mastering - not so sure about tracking or mixing.
Ever look at the plug-in offerings from Melda Productions? They've got a multi-band version of most standard effects: vibrato, panning, delay, you-name-it. With the multi-band host, you could roll your own multi-band anything. That's where I'd see it being useful in a mix. I'm not sure it's $129 useful, however (or even $129 - 25%, which is the deal at the CW store at the moment). But it is intriguing and tempting at the discount price.
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drewfx1
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/14 15:50:51
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Finally got around to demoing this. First a couple notes: 1. The 64bit VST only loads other 64bit VST's. No big surprise here. 2. It also won't load Sonar specific plugs that are keyed to only run in Sonar, like Vintage Channel. 3. Everything else I tried to load so far worked OK. Some people on the UAD forum have reported some compensation problems in some cases, and Blue Cat suggested stopping/starting playback, switching the plug on/off or stopping/restarting the audio engine should fix this, at least in most cases. I haven't tested for any compensation issues myself. I tried various things and it worked well. For instance, I tried using a saturation plug and restricting it to a limited frequency range, a narrow band mid/side delay, using a color compressor only on the lows/low-mids, and taking a bass track and leaving the low end dry while running the rest through Amplitube using a slightly overdriven guitar amp that had anemic bass response followed by a chorus - worked beautifully. I'm not really looking at it as a mastering plug, or to, say, turn any comp into a multiband comp (how often do you need a multiband comp anyway?). Turning a stereo plug into a mid/side one might be useful on occasion, but it would only work with certain plugs and some of them already do M/S on their own anyway. But I'm sold on it for my intended uses, and CW just happened to put it even more on sale for me the other day.
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/15 15:38:22
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☄ Helpfulby drewfx1 2013/09/15 16:18:43
drewfx1
Turning a stereo plug into a mid/side one might be useful on occasion, but it would only work with certain plugs and some of them already do M/S on their own anyway.
You can already do that by creating a SONAR effects chain module with three components, the first and third being Channel Tools: 1) Stereo to MS and 3) MS to Stereo. The middle component is whatever stereo effect you want to use.
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Re: Blue Cat MB-7 multiband VST hosting
2013/09/15 16:18:35
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drewfx1
Turning a stereo plug into a mid/side one might be useful on occasion, but it would only work with certain plugs and some of them already do M/S on their own anyway.
You can already do that by creating a SONAR effects chain module with three components, the first and third being Channel Tools: 1) Stereo to MS and 3) MS to Stereo. The middle component is whatever stereo effect you want to use.
Yeah, I've played with that in the past. Channel Tools is one of my all time favorite plugins!
In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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