Bondage (2013 Mix)

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2013/09/19 12:14:38 (permalink)

Bondage (2013 Mix)

This is an old song that I wrote back in 1981. I've recorded it a few different times over the years. This version was recorded back in 2003, with my old friend Brian DiBonaventura. I remixed it recently to replace missing software FX plugins, and to give the mix a bit more "space".
 
Credits:
Walt Collins - drums, vocals, bass, electric and acoustic guitars, organ
Brian DiBonaventura - electric and acoustic guitars, tubular bells
Chris Rohl - electric guitar
 
http://soundcloud.com/arcanor/bondage-2013-mix
 
I'm sharing this with the group as a sample of some of my old style stuff.  It's a much more complex production than my more recent electronic music.  That being said, I'm probably not going to be doing much more with this mix any time soon. ;)  But in any case, I hope you guys enjoy it.

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    Wookiee
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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/19 13:40:05 (permalink)
    Interesting tune mix sounds wellish here though the kick has punch but no presence, can not hear the slap.
     
    But hey it is your tune thanks for sharing.
     
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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/19 14:10:39 (permalink)
       Thanks for sharing Walt. I see what you mean. If you got started in this back in 81' then I could imagine wanting to try something different. You are doing great with your synth work as well. 
     
      If you hadn't told me what year this was made I would have guessed in the mid 80's. What was your recording rig back then? This was back before the average person had decent recording tools unless they went to a studio. The guitar sits well in the mix. The other parts are coming through ok. I can't tell how the low end is from my listening setup right now.You have good vocals. Pretty cool.
     
     

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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/19 14:47:27 (permalink)
    Wookiee
    Interesting tune mix sounds wellish here though the kick has punch but no presence, can not hear the slap.
     
    But hey it is your tune thanks for sharing.
     
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    Thanks Wookiee!  I have corrected the problem with the kick here, but won't post it again until/unless there are a few more edits.

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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/19 15:08:30 (permalink)
    Starise
       Thanks for sharing Walt. I see what you mean. If you got started in this back in 81' then I could imagine wanting to try something different. You are doing great with your synth work as well. 
     
      If you hadn't told me what year this was made I would have guessed in the mid 80's. What was your recording rig back then? This was back before the average person had decent recording tools unless they went to a studio. The guitar sits well in the mix. The other parts are coming through ok. I can't tell how the low end is from my listening setup right now.You have good vocals. Pretty cool.



    Thanks again for listening Starise, and thanks for the compliments!  I'm a bit self conscious about my vocals, and have used V-Vocal quite a bit on them. ;)  I hope it's not too obvious.
     
    The original takes were done in 2002/2003, using Sonar (maybe Sonar 2?), running on a WinXP box.  Not sure if that was before or after I bought a Liquid DAW from Scott Reams (an old CW user).  I hooked it up to a Tascam DM-24, with a 24-channel IF-FW/DM firewire interface.  It was a fairly awesome setup actually.  I could record 16 mics at once, plus 8 more digital tracks via lightpipe.  Mostly I kept it to about 10 or 12 mics though, max.  For instance, the drum tracks on this song use 8 mics.  Obviously this is quite a different production process from electronic music. ;)

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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/19 17:56:15 (permalink)
    I'm really in to Bondage. Wait, that didn't come out right. What I mean to say is that I could be tied down against my will and forced to listen to this and I would enjoy it. (and I agree with the big hairy guy about the kick)

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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/19 20:12:32 (permalink)
    I'll just keep it nice and easy and say that it sounded really good for me. Had a nice arrangement, instrumentation, vocals and mix. For starting this so many years ago, and then working on it here and there you have been able to keep the bulk of everything in pretty good condition in order to work on it one more time. For now, seeing you have taken care of the kick, might be a good time to leave well enough alone. Nicely done.
     
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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/19 21:12:14 (permalink)
    @The Band19 - Thanks for listening and commenting!  This song started off as an acoustic ballad in the early '80's, but we became deviant... er, deviated from the original idea of a more reserved song and went with a more Super and Mega (S&M??) style. :D
     
    @theguitarplayer - Thanks John for taking the time to listen, and for your constructive comments as always.  I did back most of everything up to external hard drives, and later to CD-Rs, then DVD-Rs, and eventually to BD-R discs, so this project has survived a couple of the seemingly inevitable "hard drive crash" episodes that have happened over the last 12 years.  I'm a bit of a pack rat, I must admit.  Lucky me. :)

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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/20 11:56:01 (permalink)
    Hey,
     
    Good job man.  Nice vocals there.  Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/20 14:29:32 (permalink)
    Thanks Donny!  I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment.

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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/22 11:55:27 (permalink)
    Cool Tune Walt... I liked the vocal... not crazy 'bout the fuzzy guitar, but I enjoyed listenting... this was the only SoundCloud tune that would play for me so far today... 
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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/22 13:13:55 (permalink)
    Thanks Frank!  I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment, and I'm glad you (mostly) liked it. :)
     
    By the way, I suspect you were able to listen to this song because I removed the 's' from the URL (i.e. I used http: instead of https:).  Since you are having problems with the https: URLs from soundcloud, I'll bet you're not logging into a soundcloud account of your own.  So here are two possible solutions for you if you want to listen to other folks' tunes on soundcloud:
     
    1. change the URL from https://soundcloud.com/otherstuffgoeshere to http://soundcloud.com/otherstuffgoeshere, (i.e. remove the 's' from 'https').
    2. get yourself a free soundcloud account and login to it before listening to any https: links

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    Re: Bondage (2013 Mix) 2013/09/22 14:14:53 (permalink)
    Thanks Walt... I have a soundcloud account with some music posted but haven't visited it in a while ... I'll try your suggestions...
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