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Books...
One thing I was looking forward to when we started talking about settling down here was to start putting together a nice collection of books. I was delighted when I found that Barnes And Noble sold (stylish) hardcover versions of classics at such reasonable prices. Having studied french literature, I figured it was about time to dedicate myself to english literature. I am obviously familiar with a bunch of UK/US authors but in most cases, I've read translations because that's all you could find back home. Hence, I've recently started reading Shelley's Frankenstein in English for the first time in my life. Up next, obviously, Stoker's Dracula, then the works of Poe and Lovecraft. All of which I've already read translations of. These should satisfy my thirst for the genre. The latest addition to my collection which I've just ordered should consist of the works of Shakespeare, Dickens and Doyle's entire Sherlock Holmes series. Before Mosh drops in and tells me that I've got it all wrong and I should be reading the works of Rexroth, Gregory Corso and Lawrence Ferlinghetti, I feel appropriate to mention that my knowledge of American literature is in no way limited to Kerouac, Miller and Whitman - though I've obviously read most of what they've written... :P With that out of the way, I was wondering if some of you guys would have suggestions for "classics" - pre-20th century stuff mostly, I guess. You know, the english equivalent of Rabelais, Balzac and Hugo, that sort of thing.
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Not sure what you're looking for... Catcher In the Rye? Moby Dick? Lord of the Flies? Canterbury Tales? Death of a Salesman? Jane Eyre? For Whom the Bell Tolls? The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn? Fahrenheit 451? Slaughterhouse-Five? The Iliad and the Odyssey? Of Mice and Men? Paradise Lost? I'm sure I'll remember more later... As for me, I like Ayn Rand's works like Atlas Shrugged or the Fountainhead. Science Fiction is a big one for me too. The Dune series among many others. Steve will be along shortly (no pun intended) to suggest Fapula by Hand Stroker.
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craigb Not sure what you're looking for... Catcher In the Rye? Moby Dick? Lord of the Flies? Canterbury Tales? Death of a Salesman? Jane Eyre? For Whom the Bell Tolls? The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn? Fahrenheit 451? Slaughterhouse-Five? The Iliad and the Odyssey? Of Mice and Men? Paradise Lost? I'm sure I'll remember more later... As for me, I like Ayn Rand's works like Atlas Shrugged or the Fountainhead. Science Fiction is a big one for me too. The Dune series among many others. Steve will be along shortly (no pun intended) to suggest Fapula by Hand Stroker. 
Mostly, classics english literature - so Homer wouldn't qualify. ;) Obvious old classics - along the line of Dickens and Shakespeare or even more popular ones, like R.L. Stevenson. Mark Twain works. :) I'll get to Hemingway, Steinbeck and company eventually.
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Hemingway: The Old Man and the Sea Steinbeck: Of Mice and Men Stephen Crane: Red Badge of Courage Anything by Mark Twain Ray Bradbury: The Martian Chronicles
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My favourite of the genre, and possibly the best English writer of the supernatural;
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It's relatively new (1940's), but the 'Gormenghast' trilogy by Mervyn Peake is a stunning piece of literature;
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I am of the belief that P.G. Wodehouse was the greatest English writer in history. At the peak of his writing career (1930's onward), he wrote some of the funniest literature that has ever been written in the English language, and his style was exquisite. If he's not considered one of the "classics" then he should be. Everyone should read at least one Jeeves and Wooster book (Code Of The Woosters and Joy In The Morning are my favorites) and at least one Blandings Castle book (Uncle Fred In The Springtime, Summer Lightning or Heavy Weather for example). He has a way with words that hits your funny bone just right, and his plots are hilariously intricate.
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Re: Books...
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2014/03/27 14:03:34
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Rain The latest addition to my collection which I've just ordered should consist of the works of Shakespeare......
It's official everyone......Rain definitely has waaayyyyy too much time to kill ! ;) Ya know we only ever looked at that stuff because we were locked in a room and forced to, right ?
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Tastes vary, but I agree that P.G. Wodehouse was a genius. I could read his stuff all day (and I have). I also can't read enough Poe. On the other hand, Melville makes me want to use that DIY lobotomy kit. (Sorry, I'm not usually allowed in civilized company.) I would also include Lewis Carroll, George MacDonald, Jane Austen (yes, she's funny), Robert Louis Stevenson (What? I enjoy children's books, too), and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Mark Twain was fantastic. H.G. Wells and Jules Verne had some great ideas. There are probably a lot more, but those are the ones that bubbled to the surface first.
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+1 for anything by Mark Twain, especially "Letters from the Earth". Quality hardbound editions of The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings would deserve a place on the shelf. "Watership Down" would make my "classics" list. So would "Alice in Wonderland". Anything by Terry Pratchett, a true master of the English language with the kind of warped humor that should appeal to all CH denizens. Might as well add Douglas Adams to that category. Granted, these authors aren't dead yet so they might not qualify as "classics". But they will be someday. Classic science fiction ranks high on my list: Brave New World The Foundation Trilogy War of the Worlds A Canticle for Leibowitz Fahrenheit 451 Ringworld Snowcrash Journey to the Center of the Earth I, Robot Childhood's End Ender's Game / Speaker for the Dead The Time Machine Stranger in a Strange Land 1984 The Martian Chronicles The Lathe of Heaven Dune Neuromancer Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Slaughterhouse 5 Flowers for Algernon Admittedly, some of these barely qualify as "classics". More accurately, they could be described as being written in the classic tradition: big ideas brought down to human level. BTW, "Idiocracy" was stolen from a Nebula-winning short story by CM Kornbluth called "Marching Morons".
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all of my books are electronic now. save a tree. most recent: Stephen Hawkings' "A Briefer History of Time", which is the updated version which includes string theory, quantum mechanics and more on the big bang theory before that, bram stoker's "Dracula". i'm also a sucker for music stuff, several good recent purchases: KEN SCOTT'S "ABBEY ROAD TO ZIGGY STARDUST" (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) "KICKING AND DREAMING", ANN AND NANCY WILSON (HEART) "A WIZARD A TRUE STAR: TODD RUNDGREN IN THE STUDIO", PAUL MYERS
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Huckleberry Finn is an excellent read, but I also enjoyed "Life On The Mississipi" very much.
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I love sci fi and otherworldy books, that is , if they can take me somewhere or make me think I am somewhere else or I buy into the characters. I like books about things that people swear happened but science says it couldn't have happened. I have at least a dozen books in my reading area at home right now all started into a few chapters. I'll read some of one and then some of another.They all get read eventually unless they are really bad. When I go to the used bookstores I end up with books on just about anything,the Apollo missions, weird weather, ghosts,demons, scifi,electronic,recording and technical books. I have at least 10 copies of the good book lying around in different versions.I have already read it but I reference it a lot. Lately Ive been buying Kindle books because they are much less expensive than hardbacks. It seems odd the way you buy books for the ipad though.....the kindle app will only let you add a book to a wish list. I have an Amazon app on my ipad but it won't let me buy a Kindle book and the Kindle app won't let me buy a book...instead I have to go to the Amazon legacy site and buy books, then I have the option to decide which device I want the book sent to..... it would be nice just to buy a Kindle book from Kindle. Since the samples I read to decide on what I want to buy come from Kindle I do a lot of jumping around back and forth. Still a nice way to read a book IMO.
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I really enjoyed this one book called Reality Challenged, but the author apparently hasn't made any additional offerings since, so I've gone back to reading a phone book from 1982 (some of the later editions have words that are harder to pronounce so I stick with the Classics).
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bitflipper +1 for anything by Mark Twain, especially "Letters from the Earth". Quality hardbound editions of The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings would deserve a place on the shelf. "Watership Down" would make my "classics" list. So would "Alice in Wonderland". Anything by Terry Pratchett, a true master of the English language with the kind of warped humor that should appeal to all CH denizens. Might as well add Douglas Adams to that category. Granted, these authors aren't dead yet so they might not qualify as "classics". But they will be someday. Classic science fiction ranks high on my list: Brave New World The Foundation Trilogy War of the Worlds A Canticle for Leibowitz Fahrenheit 451 Ringworld Snowcrash Journey to the Center of the Earth I, Robot Childhood's End Ender's Game / Speaker for the Dead The Time Machine Stranger in a Strange Land 1984 The Martian Chronicles The Lathe of Heaven Dune Neuromancer Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Slaughterhouse 5 Flowers for Algernon Admittedly, some of these barely qualify as "classics". More accurately, they could be described as being written in the classic tradition: big ideas brought down to human level. BTW, "Idiocracy" was stolen from a Nebula-winning short story by CM Kornbluth called "Marching Morons".
EXCELLENT list! I have read most of those.
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Re: Books...
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2014/03/27 16:35:19
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Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe
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+1 for Jane Austin. Most of the recommendations so far have not been pre-20th century. I seldom read books that old, but I have enjoyed Austin quite a lot. Some might suggest that she wrote "chick-lit". But no - it's extremely sophisticated and witty prose. Now, if you want recommendations on 20th/21st century SF and fantasy, just say so, and the floodgates will open!
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Wow, that's plenty of awesome suggestions! Lord of the Rings - as improbable as it might seem, I've never read or seen the movies. People around me were so nuts about that stuff that I instinctively avoided it. As it turns out, I'm glad not to have spoiled it by reading the french translation first - these go on the top of my list. Thanks Bit - and for the rest of that incredible list as well. Paulo - These are usually the books I like most. ;) As for time, I'm trying to make the most of it I guess. Bat - I've read quite a bunch of eBooks in the last couple of years. For lighter stuff like biographies and such, it's fine. But for some other things, for me, nothing beats an actual book. And I need time away from the computer. Grabbing a book seems to allow me to recalibrate my attention and to focus one one thing for a longer time instead of mentally hitting "refresh" every 10 seconds. No internet, no alerts, no notification... Just a few days taking a bit of time with a book every day and it has a profound impact on my mood. As for saving trees, I guess that's part of the reason why I am specifically looking for classics. Hopefully, these books will pass on to the next generation, and I feel that these are works that deserve the special treatment. Whereas a John Lennon biography or a Stephen King novel is read just as well as an ebook. Here's what was waiting for me on the porch this morning. Shakespeare is on his way. I can't wait to read that stuff.
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UbiquitousBubba I can't stand that guy, Craigb...
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+1 to the accolades for Wodehouse. A giant!!
But please...."Catch 22" by Joseph Heller.
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Rain ... Hence, I've recently started reading Shelley's Frankenstein in English for the first time in my life. Up next, obviously, Stoker's Dracula ... BEFORE, you read Dracula, you gotta reas a couple of things around that time, that are really quick reads and kinda tell you how Mary Shelley came to write her book. You gotta read Polidori's "Vampyr" and then Sherida Le Fanu's Carmilla. Along with The Castle of Otranto (Walpole) this was pretty much the beginning of "gothic literature" that was eventually furthered by the French Revolution and its gory public'ness. There is a novel, by some guy whose name I can never remember, called "The Missolonghi Manuscripts" and it is about the week or two that these books were written by Polidori and Mary. And it also gives, although in a fictionalized way, a nice picture of those days and nights! Marvellous reading. There is a critical book, called "The Romantic Agony" that is a magnificent write up about the literature that started that era.
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Beagle Pedro's dad.
There are not many things translated into English, but some are fun to read. The short plays are all satires, many of them a la Bunuel and surrealistic. The "Death of the Pope" is a paranoid political short, that I directed on the stage and filmed at UCSB. I might like to see that video again, and probably redo some of it and make it even more paranoid. Of all the things worth reading, catch one of his students translations of a lot of film reviews that were censored in Portugal during the fascist days, and my mom provided manuscripts of the whole review. This was published like 10 years ago, I think and it will blow your mind, but it will give you a really BIG look at the 50's and how they affected so much of Europe, all the way into the early 60's. Honestly, I have not read a lot of my dad's work, as Portuguese is really hard for me, and I did not have it long enough to take a good hold. I can't even write it anymore. But poetry is insanely hard for me to understand and read, and I have gone so far as to try and translate a couple of things here and there, and they were published in the "Ygdrasil Journal of Poetic Arts" when I was one of its editors. Since my eye surgeries I have not been able to do poetry a whole lot, as it seems that a lot of it was me staring at the tip of the pen/pencil, and the keyboard has taken some of that artistry out of it for me. I'm not writing as much poetry as I used to.
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Moshkiae There is a novel, by some guy whose name I can never remember, called "The Missolonghi Manuscripts" and it is about the week or two that these books were written by Polidori and Mary. And it also gives, although in a fictionalized way, a nice picture of those days and nights! Marvellous reading.
Frederic Prokosch?
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batsbrew ... i'm also a sucker for music stuff, ...
Just got done reading Marianne Faithfull's biography. Excellent book and very well written, and it will be hard as hell to write a review on it! Reading a couple of things about groupies, and although I find Pamela a bit too windex and bleached out for my tastes, the one by that Roxanna lady is insane and amazing, and unashamedly hardcore! It actually shows a lot more of the music scene in reality than anything else. It's honesty is blatant and hard and direct, and I doubt that many of those musicians want to face the light of the day as "musicians". Even Bapu doesn't tell tales about that time and place!
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Moshkiae There is a novel, by some guy whose name I can never remember, called "The Missolonghi Manuscripts" and it is about the week or two that these books were written by Polidori and Mary. And it also gives, although in a fictionalized way, a nice picture of those days and nights! Marvellous reading.
Frederic Prokosch?
I believe so. Have to find it and look for it and check it out again! (Sorry ... so many posts!) On the Gothic literature theme: In school (Santa Barbara City College) I once taught a 2 day course on the history of Gothic Literature, and it went from 1750's to 1970's and closed it with Ann Rice and Dennis Wheatley. A couple of notes on it that make it more interesting and sometimes give away a little more history for it all: - The French Revolution added a lot of gory stuff to the genre. - Lord Byron wrote a vampire story. The Corsair, I think it was. But reading poetry is not everyone's cup of tea. I think Percy Shelley had one, but not sure which one it was. Polidori was their family doctor. - Dumas fits into the "gothic" era but much later. - Bram Stoker kinda closes the "era" with the ultimate story. However, the majority of its intense story is the fact that it is written in diary form and letters, and you keep waiting for the next letter of diary entry! - Dion Fortune wrote several novels that are also difficult to read because of all the magic and ritualistic content in it. This makes for difficult reading and understanding of what is going on. - Aleister Crowley has two novels that are magnificent. "Moonchild" and "Diary of a Drug Fiend". The first I don't even know where and how to start a comment. The 2nd is the best study of addiction ever done by anyone and the only one that does not cop out on the drugs or himself. Excellent book, but difficult reading because of all the ritualistic and magic content. - Ann Rice. The best work of hers, is not her well known material, but the stuff that she writes in her pseudonym, which has more sex, drugs and rock'n'roll than the more popular stuff which oftenn cops out at the worst moments. The other stories worry less about the sex and what not, and this helps the story flow a lot more clearly. - Dennis Wheatley has some really "heavy" and totally insane stories in his "black magic series", and these are very difficult reading for most people, and the insanity behind it is even worse. An acquired taste! Other than that, I have done a lot of reading lately on biographies of some of the progressive rock folks in the hopes of being able to put together my own book on the subject. I like to "know/understand" how an artist thinks, though this changes everyday like you and I know! A lot of the folks that came and went in our house, this was what their discussions were usually about, after the surface discussions were out of the way. I always liked how ... that's an interesting idea, and what happens if we ... which is something that a lot of musicians don't like to play with, because it interferes with their own ideas. It's not so much about interfering as it is about all of these ideas intersecting and making each other stronger!
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As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys!
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