Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title)

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Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title)

Finally found a little use for this upper vocal register I discovered about a year ago and have been working on.  This is more of a rock song, not so much the heavy progressive stuff I put out here before. 
 
Turn it up if you can...I mix stuff to be loud!  The link plays the song automagically. 
 
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    rebel007
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/12 07:53:58 (permalink)
    Lots of different feels happening but they seem to work well together. High vocal stuff really suited the atmospheric guitars. I'm not really the "full on guitar" sought of person, so it kind of took me a bit by surprise when they came in, but I did really enjoy the song. Well done....

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/12 11:32:45 (permalink)
    That's great..this is really well produced and mixed. Those changes from the clean, Chris Isaac-ish guitars to the heavy ones are very nicely mixed, as are the vocals. Unusual sound, but I like it.

     
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/12 13:14:05 (permalink)
    Works well here, the mix comes across balanced and with space nicely done.
     
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/12 13:38:33 (permalink)
    Very cool. I get lots of different vibes from this. Like many bands from over the years all coming together for one big jam.

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/13 06:36:37 (permalink)
    very cool song. actually I hope you don't mind when I say that I like this one better than the rest of your record, it really stands out - maybe it is just more radio-friendly! well prodcued and played, I am impressed.

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/14 09:18:46 (permalink)
    rebel007 - much thanks, I appreciate your ear.  
     
    Jamesg1213 - thanks, I am getting the feeling the sounds are unusual, which I didn't expect.
     
    Wookie - that's precisely what I was going for...a more spacey mix, lots of room for the parts.
     
    Scottytunes - I have been getting that same...response, different vibes...took me by surprise actually.
     
    speedtom - No, I don't mind that at all, and was exactly what I expected really - to stand out as a radio friendly commercial type thing. 
     
     
    I'll be honest, I'm disappointed at the overall response, or lack thereof.  I know everyone in here can relate.  I guess I just blew it on this one.  
     
    I've always prided myself on knowing what people want to hear - and when I write long, windy songs, with an emphasis on music over vocals, meandering structures over radio friendly structures, I know full well that I am challenging the listener.  So I've always accepted the lack of enthusiasm, and select audience I get as a result of that - has always been expected and has never bothered me at all.
     
    But this time, I purposely set out to do something simple and radio friendly.  And I am completely dumbfounded at the response I'm getting - not so much here, but on other song boards.  I thought I had a great song here that was accessible to the modern ear, but man, I can tell that people are just not digging it.  And I'm clueless to what is happening.  Maybe I'm just completely out of touch.  I don't know. 
     
    I like to learn from my mistakes.  And I'm so lost here, that I don't know what to take from this, what to learn.  My wife says I'm too influenced by Mars Volta and that this song is too much of a Jekyll and Hyde.  I don't hear it, honestly.  But maybe she's right?  (pst..nobody tell her I said she might be right about something, she'll never let me forget it, ha ha!)
     
     

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/14 12:00:32 (permalink)
    Don't beat yourself up about it too much, I think it sounds great. When I say 'unusual', I really mean 'unusual to me', so don't take that the wrong way.
     
    As far as lack of response goes, you'll find you get more replies the longer you stick around and comment on other people's music, that's the way it usually works. I don't see any negatives in the comments you've had so far, so that's got to be a plus.

     
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/15 19:12:41 (permalink)
    Hey James, I appreciate it.  I'm going to do what I do, and nothing is going to change that.  I love this song - I hope that doesn't sound vain, I just do.  I love the space, the lyrics, how all of the sudden the heavy guitars and thundering drums kick in and then the haunting, dreamy ending - I busted my ass on that vocal work, from the screaming rock stuff to the smoothed trippy stuff at the end.  The melodies work for me, real well. 
     
    It's just that nobody likes it - ha ha!  Let's be honest here.  I've had 35 views at Ultimate-Guitar, not a single reply - that's a hard death right there.  I've had a lot of views here too, but you guys have been generous. 
     
    I'm a big boy, I can take it.  I'm more confused that anything else, because I thought it would be received way better. 
     
    I will continue to give my *honest* critiques on this board and give us amateurs the attention we all deserve.  And thank you for yours.  Happy recording! 

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/15 19:39:26 (permalink)
    I love this sound, and you've planted a seed in people's minds with this.  Just nurture this and fruition will come.  We're all atoms in a huge sea, and not as many people as you might think listen to these song forums across the internet.  The more you listen, the more you'll be heard.

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/15 19:55:03 (permalink)
    That's how I like my women? Bound and loved... I may give it a less busy drum track, with the guitars, it feels like it needs to be slower "during the slow part" on the faster part, the drums seem to fit very well with it.
     
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/16 05:38:48 (permalink)
    I liked your song …. even though I couldn't turn it up as much as I wanted to at this lovely hour 
     
    Yeah , you sound creative …..and you want to know something ?
    be prepared for people online at some of these other forums to treat you with indifference …we don't do that here 
     
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/17 19:40:18 (permalink)
    This is pretty cool! Very much an indie vibe, with some shredding thrown in for good measure. Nice, clean mix, though the snare gets just a tad monotonous. Very creative, for sure.
     
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/18 09:30:56 (permalink)
    Lynn - much thanks, seriously.  I hope I have planted that seed, you speak of.  And yes, I will continue to listen and give back as well.  In fact, tonight is looking good for that so far...
     
    The Band19 - critique noted.  Funny thing is, I was originally going for an even busier drum track during the clean guitar parts - subtle snare rolling type stuff, but busy nonetheless.  I was disappointed at how slow it actually ended up.  
     
    Kenny - thanks, and yes, you're right, you guys are a lot more generous here in terms of feedback.  It is appreciated.
     
    dcumpian - thanks for your ear.  And I agree, the snare was kind of bothering me too so I guess I haven't dealt with that effectively enough.  I tried to throw in more tom hits and so forth, but it's still too monotonous.  
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/18 11:44:33 (permalink)
    Nice one!  This has a  very definite indie and commercial feel to it.  However, for me the changes that you have built into this number make it kind of refreshing and certainly take it away from the formulated boredom that comes across commercial radio. 
    Lynn makes a valid point when he stated that "We're all atoms in a huge sea..."  However, most participant on this forum are very good about responding and you will get some very good (and honest) feedback.
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/18 16:36:46 (permalink)
    I get what your wife meant by the Jekyll and Hyde thing. I wasn't expecting it. After the song started, I felt that a certain vibe had been established. Then you totally took me by surprise. Very cool! I love what you did with the vocals. Nice job on those. You have a great imagination, and it was displayed nicely in this song. I thought the mix sounded good too. Nice job man. Keep em coming.
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/20 12:29:02 (permalink)
    Cool.. nise song and sounds..


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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/20 12:58:39 (permalink)
    Excellent - this is my cup of tea.
     
    Your voice really reminds me of Thomas Dolby
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/24 16:32:17 (permalink)
    Freddy J - thank you sir!  I have received the most response here at this forum, which means a lot.  I am still disappointed in the dead response on other boards though.  If a song really moves someone, they'll respond.  So, it is what it is.  
     
    Leadfoot - so yeah, Jekyll and Hyde.  I guess it never seemed that way to me since it was conceived from a Fleetwood Mac phase.  Sounds nothing like them..ha ha.  I can't explain it.  I am glad it took you by surprise though - that surprise, and really unpredictability too, is a quality in music that I miss in commercial, that I'm constantly looking for in my own.  I love not knowing what's going to happen next, and the possibility that it could be anything.  
     
    Makke - thanks.
     
    daryl1968 - Thomas Dolby huh?  Just need a little more accent, I think.  

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/02/24 18:02:10 (permalink)
    Hey mate,
     
    This is really good, simple, catchy, and may I say those burst of guitars make it very interesting.
     
    This forum is a kind of family, so you will get responses. Do not beat yourself up over a platform like ultimate guitar, thats the general public, 90% don't give a ****.
     
    You see this is bordering on Indie, lets face it, that isn't exactly "mainstream" and ultra radio friendly, but I really wouldn't change a thing about this song. It would deserve a place on one of your albums without doubt.
     
    For this genre, it really needs real drums to be radio friendly fully, but it didn't bother me, the song is writing is all there.
     
    Your vox are awesome.
     
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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/03/02 20:14:38 (permalink)
    whack - Wow, thanks!  I understand what you're saying about it being somewhat "Indie", and yeah, I'm changing nothing.  Other than maybe it would be nice to get that annoying snare tamed a bit more, but I'm moving on. 
     
    Real drums are coming too, my friend.  I can't wait, but I have to sell my house first, get some money freed up and then convince the queen of the castle that I need - not merely want - but *need* mics for the drum kit.  It shall start with a back rub...

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    Re: Bound and Loved (or Bound in Lust...still thinking on the title) 2014/03/03 12:30:02 (permalink)
    Yeah man!!!  I like this song.  I like the contrasting styles between the verses and the choruses.  The verses are like great 80's music .  Someone said you sound like Thomas Dolby but I think you sound more like Robert Smith from The Cure.  Then another person said "Chris Isaak guitars".  Yes, they are in there also and he was another fantastic musician in the 80's.  Then the chorus blasts in and it jumps up a decade to the 90's and your vocals jump up an octave as well!!  Now I'm hearing the music of  "Tool".
     
    I'm sorry about all the comparisons.  I guess what I'm trying to say is that it sounds great!!  And it has commercial potential which is something that I like.  You have a great voice with a lot of range.  Do you use auto-tuning?  Not that it matters, everyone uses it these days but I prefer to not use it.
     
    My only criticism is the ending.  The spacey part is great but it's a little too long and I was totally expecting the chorus to jump back in one more time after a pause.  Other than that,  I think it's really great man!! 
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