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2011/08/17 08:47:18 (permalink)

Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ??

Really ?  The thread was titled "XIC without Panups mods look...." 
 
With the message saying "hideous".
 
And you locked that ?
 
 
 
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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 08:54:16 (permalink)
    Hey, at least the colours were not neutral.... 

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 08:57:53 (permalink)
    I guess it's going to be heavy duty moderating from now on.
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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 09:02:18 (permalink)
    I felt that Brandons' comment to you was disappointing.


    Honestly, when someone exclaims, in all sincerity, that something being presented looks hideous.... it is "helpful" information... even if the presenter doesn't want to hear it.


    Personally, I think the X1 GUI looks remarkably ugly.

    And so I feel compelled to remark.

    I had forgotten how black and dark the X1 GUI is. I had forgotten how difficult it is to read the X1 GUI fonts and how low contrast some of the labels are.

    I had forgotten how much display space is wasted in SONAR X1 and how few tracks I may see simultaneously. I had forgotten that all that wasted screen space in SONAR X1 is dark black.

    Once I remembered how ugly X1's GUI is, I fired up Acronis True Image and exorcised SONAR X1 from my machine.

    Now I'm running the latest and greatest SONAR v8.5.2 and thinking about getting a fancy new Win7 64 machine to run it on for the next few years.


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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 09:03:10 (permalink)
    That thread started with an unconstructive OP and was followed up with an **** reply baldly stating that Cakewalk's developers were incompetent. Of course it got locked. Here's hoping more threads of that nature get nuked. Including this one, frankly.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 09:07:52 (permalink)
    Feh.

    Might want  to leave this one open and just combine the colour threads into this one.  I do concur with the general thing here. It is rather difficult to see some to the features when it is so dark.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 09:12:03 (permalink)
    It would be nice to hear from cakewalk, if they are working on the colors for X2.
    The software is kept dark, then the mixer is kept light. All fonts in bright blue. I find the color combination horrible.
    It is also unclear, bus and track have the same background color. I'd like to have different background colors for groups and folders and buses.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:21:07 (permalink)
    John T - The comment that was posted as a reaction to my comment was

    "Ain't it though? And from day one. What GUI design 101 class did these designers take - and flunk out of-? "

    That was "lock" worthy ?


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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:29:03 (permalink)
    Yeah, it's just rudeness. Doesn't say anything remotely useful. Your opening post was much the same. Absolutely nothing constructive, or worthy of a response, just a "DUDE THIS SUCKS" post.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:30:20 (permalink)
    I like the colors of X1...alot

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:32:08 (permalink)
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    John T - The comment that was posted as a reaction to my comment was

    "Ain't it though? And from day one. What GUI design 101 class did these designers take - and flunk out of-? "

    That was "lock" worthy ?
    I do not think that it was lock worthy. Mind you, it might have been a little less likely to have been locked if there was even a hint that someone could have suggested another colour value instead...


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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:35:11 (permalink)
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    Yeah, it's just rudeness. Doesn't say anything remotely useful. Your opening post was much the same. Absolutely nothing constructive, or worthy of a response, just a "DUDE THIS SUCKS" post.

    I'm not so sure that just up and locking it was going to help anything either...there are some here that could have been told about Panups Mods instead...being that he did offer some colour modifications.


    And all this kvetching about others kvetching....

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:35:47 (permalink)
    Well, the people who run the board clearly thought it was lock worthy. So I think the OP should basically just get over it.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:37:12 (permalink)
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    That thread started with an unconstructive OP and was followed up with an **** reply baldly stating that Cakewalk's developers were incompetent. Of course it got locked. Here's hoping more threads of that nature get nuked. Including this one, frankly.


    John-T, as you know sometimes honesty is the best policy.

    For example; when you took the time to post here on this forum that the music I have at my website is "appalling".

    I want you to know that since you offered that heart felt critique that I have been working very hard on practicing my scales so that my music may be more presentable in the future.






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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:50:50 (permalink)
    I think that the complaint(s) about the color scheme is legitimate since the colors are no longer customizable.  Hence, an attack on the Bakers may be the only means of getting their attention on the issue.  Many of us have been grumbling about the lack of customization in X1 (including the colors in particular), and yet nothing has been address in this respect by CW.  (I even come to believe the track widgets were not customizable it was so frustrating.)  After all, we waited patiently for "c" in which we had mounting expectations in our wait.  So, the compromise of (color) customization for larger widgets and buttons (and less working space) doesn't strike a happy balance.  This reminds me of the series of commercials with the "suit" offering kids toys and then takes them away or he gives a kid a toy but then the next kid gets an even better toy (might be on the a west coast only?).  Oh the irony.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:53:00 (permalink)
    > Hence, an attack on the Bakers may be the only means of getting their attention on the issue. Or, you know, it might just be considered rude and get locked and ignored. One of these things actually happened. Can you guess which?

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:53:34 (permalink)
    You can use Panup's Mods to customize the colours ...but, yeah, it should have been customisable right from the get go...

    The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:56:05 (permalink)
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    > Hence, an attack on the Bakers may be the only means of getting their attention on the issue. Or, you know, it might just be considered rude and get locked and ignored. One of these things actually happened. Can you guess which?

    So people use rhetorical flourishes all the time.


    Do we need policing now in terms of our rhetoric?


    Criticising is now to be done in a meek manner..as in ...please may we have...and et cetera...

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 10:58:38 (permalink)
    I fail to see the connection between rudeness and rhetoric. The rude behavior on this forum just shows a widespread lack of class.
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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:02:44 (permalink)
    Amen.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:04:43 (permalink)
    I think that the complaint(s) about the color scheme is legitimate since the colors are no longer customizable.  Hence, an attack on the Bakers may be the only means of getting their attention on the issue.  Many of us have been grumbling about the lack of customization in X1 (including the colors in particular), and yet nothing has been address in this respect by CW. 

    How many people on the 'forum' have complained about colors? Maybe 30?

    I don't remember seeing a post with hundreds of users complaining, maybe if Cakewalk held a poll of all the X1 users and found that a large percentage wanted color customization then you'd see something done quickly but I would not expect it to happen in the X1 cycle. It's a feature re-implementation request.


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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:04:45 (permalink)
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    I fail to see the connection between rudeness and rhetoric. The rude behavior on this forum just shows a widespread lack of class.

    It is how people interpret what is said. Some interpret what is said as an attack on CW whereas myself, not so much. 


    Now, when someone posts stuff that threatens someone physically  or some such that is Rude. Entirely different matter then. 


    And, as I've said before...(this is starting to be a mantra with me) ..in the ongoing brawl between the fanbois vs those who want changes is there a little space left for those of us who like using this DAW but want to see somethings improved?

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:05:20 (permalink)
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    That thread started with an unconstructive OP and was followed up with an **** reply baldly stating that Cakewalk's developers were incompetent. Of course it got locked. Here's hoping more threads of that nature get nuked. Including this one, frankly.


    Hi John, Since you have the growing reputation of being argumentative (history telling) I will entertain your reasoning with a mutual response...

    Do you mean "rude" as in CW's lack of a response to the ongoing outcry by long-standing and loyal user/customers going unanswered?

    The above is a rhetorical question.  No response needed.

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:07:57 (permalink)
    You know, whining about locked threads is another example of the lack of class referred to above. The bouncer has come and told you to stop acting like a jack-ass in his bar. Suck it up.
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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:10:13 (permalink)

    "I think that the complaint(s) about the color scheme is legitimate since the colors are no longer customizable."

    It's not just that the colors are not customizable... it is also the fact that several of the colors that do have custom options don't actually customize... and it's difficult to prove to yourself that the changes you are applying aren't applying.

    In the absence of any "effect" I became unsure of what I was attempting to "cause"... and so I tried repeatedly... looking around for some small detail that might have changed color.. thinking perhaps that I simply misunderstood the written description of the parameter.


    For example; I played the custom track view colors game yesterday and figured out that I was foolish to try more than once to get something to stick.

    Of course, I couldn't believe that the Bakers would leave a non functional custom color check box to appear as if it was functional... so I tried several times until I was quite sure that I had made a fool of myself.

    Then I felt foolish for having felt optimistic.



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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:15:59 (permalink)
    mike, that other post of yours.. don't take it too personal.. it's just the internet that allows people to get rude..
    don't make yourself more attackable with critiques on sonar,.. you stand no chance against some people, independant on how well founded your statements are.
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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:19:13 (permalink)
    Thanks Frank!

    all the best,
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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:22:57 (permalink)
    That is the thing. It really does matter to some of us because not all of us are able to see all that well. Then you couple that with the dark font against dark background? How is that making it easy for others to use it? My point is this, if it is too dark then you need to customise it..can we? Without Panup's Mods...no we cannot.

    So, of course, there is going to be complaints about the colours being used...

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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:29:05 (permalink)
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    "I think that the complaint(s) about the color scheme is legitimate since the colors are no longer customizable."

    It's not just that the colors are not customizable... it is also the fact that several of the colors that do have custom options don't actually customize... and it's difficult to prove to yourself that the changes you are applying aren't applying.

    In the absence of any "effect" I became unsure of what I was attempting to "cause"... and so I tried repeatedly... looking around for some small detail that might have changed color.. thinking perhaps that I simply misunderstood the written description of the parameter.


    For example; I played the custom track view colors game yesterday and figured out that I was foolish to try more than once to get something to stick.

    Of course, I couldn't believe that the Bakers would leave a non functional custom color check box to appear as if it was functional... so I tried several times until I was quite sure that I had made a fool of myself.

    Then I felt foolish for having felt optimistic.



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    LOL!  Been there, done that. 
     
    I use Panups mods now, which helps a lot but creates additional steps in-between upgrades of Sonar.   At this point in time one of his posts on the subject have generated over 1000 replies and viewed over 42,000 times.  Those are numbers worth looking at as a clue to how important color customization might be....
     
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    Re:Brandon - you locked my thread about lack of colors in X1C ?? 2011/08/17 11:32:29 (permalink)
    Actually I think that there is probably a fairly large contingency of Sonar users (not just the, admittedly more vocal, forum members) who would, if not prefer, at least welcome more color customization.  Even though it may be tangential to the actual processes and functions of Sonar it was always one of the really attractive features in that it allowed each individual user to make their DAW "their own".  Not to mention those with vision issues who quite literally needed this ability.

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