Buffers and Melodyne.

Every time I add Melodine to a track (region) it pulls up a warning dialogue saying I need to increase my buffers to 1024 or the world will end... (or something less dramatic, but nevertheless implying that Melodine will implode or at best, not function correctly)
 
Not knowing what on Earth it is talking about I always hit ignore/cancel and carry on.  Melodine works just fine.
 
What buffers is it talking about? Is this a Melodine setting?  Where is it?  As far as I can tell everything is working as intended. What am I missing?

Thanks,  so it means the sound card buffer setting...  ok, I'll try it.  I don't like the idea of having to mess with the sound card buffers each time I want to use Melodine, but if needs must.

I don't know how low my buffers are currently set (I'm at work so I can't check) but I know I run 5ms - 8ms latency max for recording and never bother adjusting anything for mixing.  I've not suffered clicks/pops for years,  neither has my DAW!! 
 
All I can see is increasing the buffers will increase the latency,  but I'll try it anyway.  As I said in the OP,  Melodine is working, but the warning dialogue every time is beginning to get on my nerves

Does it do anything different or work better with bigger buffers?   I don't see a problem running it the way I am other than the stupid warning box.  It's less effort to press ignore than to keep changing the buffers all the time...

scook
Cakewalk staff replied about this subject here http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2925791

I did look/search before I posted,  honest.  Thanks for the link.
 
So I guess the next question should be  "How do I stop it giving the stupid warning message every time when we all know there's no problem?"
 
Yeah I know...  increase buffers...
 
 
Oh well,   back to your normal programming.

+ 1 to ignoring it. IIRC, there was a post by someone in a similar thread who said they were involved in the beta testing of Melodyne and the buffer was put in place as a workaround for something that was subsequently fixed. I cannot find that post, so do not remember the details of it.
 
I have opened imported mp3s (entire song) with Editor in polyphonic mode just for fun and not had issues.

   Thanks guys, I just recently started playing with Melodyne. This is great information to know. I'm gonna leave the buffer size alone from now on. Glad I looked at this thread.
           Look at my meter on the left. Thanks CW - it looks as pathetic as my .............(nevermind)

I ignore the message and never had an issue...
 

CakeAlexS
Eventually it does disappear (mine did after about a month)....

Stick at it long enough and it gets bored...   I like that.

I've always ignored this message myself, but it's not as if I have a choice. When I go to Preferences|Driver Settings and click "ASIO Panel..." nothing happens. I don't seem to have an ASIO Panel, whatever that is. Also, "Buffers In Playback Queue" is set to 2 and grayed out. Same with the Buffer Size Slider: it's permanently all the way to the left ("Fast"), and grayed out. On the right end of the slider it says 2.7 msec, 256 samples.
I have not had a problem using these settings, but I don't know what I would do if I ever had to change them.

Larry Jones
I've always ignored this message myself, but it's not as if I have a choice. When I go to Preferences|Driver Settings and click "ASIO Panel..." nothing happens. I don't seem to have an ASIO Panel, whatever that is.

 
There should have been software for your interface that installed a control application for ASIO. Sonar calls that application to open it up. You may be able to find it in Windows' Control Panel.
 

Also, "Buffers In Playback Queue" is set to 2 and grayed out. Same with the Buffer Size Slider: it's permanently all the way to the left ("Fast"), and grayed out.

 
Those pertain to non-ASIO drivers.
 

On the right end of the slider it says 2.7 msec, 256 samples.

 
You could probably go lower if you could open the interface's applet, but that's a good compromise setting anyway.

Anderton
There should have been software for your interface that installed a control application for ASIO. Sonar calls that application to open it up. You may be able to find it in Windows' Control Panel.
 

Thanks, Craig. The interface does have a mixer app. I haven't looked at it since I originally set it up years ago. The interface (PCI card) was installed and working before I installed X3. It's quite old and did not come with ASIO drivers and as far as I know ASIO drivers were never released for it (I checked the website a couple of times), so I used WDM. But after X3 was installed I suddenly had ASIO drivers. I did not make this choice manually, but I have stayed with it because everybody seems to think it's a better way to go. I'll check out the driver app tomorrow.
 

stevec
Just out of curiosity, have you tried clicking on the ASIO button a second time?  Not a double-click, just two individual clicks.  For whatever reason this is something I've always had to do with my Scarlett 18i6 though others don't seem to get this behavior.
 

Steve - Strangely, I have tried that, but it didn't make any difference.
 

Anderton

Larry Jones
I've always ignored this message myself, but it's not as if I have a choice. When I go to Preferences|Driver Settings and click "ASIO Panel..." nothing happens. I don't seem to have an ASIO Panel, whatever that is.

 
There should have been software for your interface that installed a control application for ASIO. Sonar calls that application to open it up. You may be able to find it in Windows' Control Panel.
 

On the right end of the slider it says 2.7 msec, 256 samples.

 
You could probably go lower if you could open the interface's applet, but that's a good compromise setting anyway.

The M-Audio Delta Control Panel does have a section labeled "sample settings." In it you can set the sample rate and "ASIO/WDM buffer size." I was a little surprised to see this because there were no ASIO drivers when this card was new and I have looked for them and didn't find them. I guess ASIO must have been included in the final update, and I just didn't notice. I will miss this card when it finally quits on me.
 
This control panel is not called when I click "ASIO Panel" in Sonar preferences, but now that I know what I'm looking for I can find it if Melodyne insists. Thanks!

Grem
... my ASIO panel wouldn't come up either when I pressed the ASIO panel button in Sonar. So what I did was brought up Sonar's Preference Audio and clicked the ASIO button, then I brought up the mAudio ASIO panel (I kept it in the systray to the right) and would make my adjustments. Then I would close the mAudio ASIO panel and then hit the "Apply" button on the Sonar Preference, and then I would see the settings change/update in Sonar's preferences panel.
 

Good tip, Grem. I'll use it, and thanks!