Artur
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Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
Working with Sonar 8.5.3 encountered such problems: Asio4All in all CakeWalk products work only with sample rate 44100, if you are a larger value is bug - Need to enter the audio options, press OK, and then everything starts to work until you restart the program. There is also a problem with displaying the values of parameters when working with effects Sound Forge 10pro. Sonar 8.0.2 such not. A screenshot is attached. Please help to solve these problems.
post edited by Artur - 2010/08/03 21:56:35
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/03 22:25:51
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ASIO4ALL is not a Cakewalk product. Use the driver that came with your audio interface.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 00:10:13
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I don't think there is any such limitation in ASIO4All. I think I recall that there was once a 48KHz limit, but that was long ago. More likely the limitation is in your interface. Either way, it's not a "SONAR bug".
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 04:57:44
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I think the bug is with ASIO4ALL since I had this bug when I used to use Cubase.
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Artur
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 08:20:58
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When I worked with Cubase, this problem was not. Asio4all allow me work in Cubase with sample rate 24 (32float) 96000 Hz. But I don't like Cubace working with audio, so I like sonar. I repeat that if you set a larger value (48000, 96000, 192000) when you run the Sonar 4-8.5, Home Studio is bug. Ten seconds are not Program responds to queries, then it begins to answer, the audio engine works, but no sound. Then if you step into the audio options and just click OK, everything starts work. If you select 44100, everything works fine. (although sometimes crashing Grove Player.dll , but I got used to it and just keep projects more frequently) It seems that some kernel software CakeWalk-causes this error. I've been trying to work on multiple computers, the result was the same.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 08:27:46
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It's not a Sonar bug-Jeeezzzz!
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 08:57:37
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Artur When I worked with Cubase, this problem was not. Asio4all allow me work in Cubase with sample rate 24 (32float) 96000 Hz. But I don't like Cubace working with audio, so I like sonar. I repeat that if you set a larger value (48000, 96000, 192000) when you run the Sonar 4-8.5, Home Studio is bug. Ten seconds are not Program responds to queries, then it begins to answer, the audio engine works, but no sound. Then if you step into the audio options and just click OK, everything starts work. If you select 44100, everything works fine. (although sometimes crashing Grove Player.dll , but I got used to it and just keep projects more frequently) It seems that some kernel software CakeWalk-causes this error. I've been trying to work on multiple computers, the result was the same. Your best option is to buy a better audio interface that supports ASIO instead of using a poor quality audio interface and ASIO4all that only mimics ASIO.
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Artur
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 09:48:43
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I hope the developers are here sometimes. Maybe something will correct. Any idea about problem with Sound Forge? (look first post)
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 10:07:44
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Check your meter settings as well as pan laws that are set in SONAR.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 10:45:02
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Sonar 8.0.2 such not. A couple of things - If you're running Sonar 8, you should patch up to v8.31
- If you're seriously using Sonar, why not get a dedicated audio interface that includes a solid ASIO driver? That would eliminate these problems... and deliver better performance.
ASIO4ALL is better than nothing, but it's not an ideal long-term solution. The noise-floor with onboard audio is terrible compared to a dedicated unit. Low latency performance is nowhere near what it could be (using a solid dedicated audio interface) Note that you can find good affordable dedicated audio interfaces. The M-Audio FastTrack Ultra is a good example.
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Artur
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 11:34:28
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"Check your meter settings as well as pan laws that are set in SONAR" I'm not sure, i understood you correctly. If you say about options/audio meter setting, everything by default. Saying "Sonar 8.0.2 such not", I meant that in version 8.0.2 with sound forge effects, parameter values are displayed correctly. But version 8.5.3 sonar (where I work), the screenshot. It does the job is not possible. Thanks for the tips. Just at the moment, I am satisfied with the capabilities of my audio card, so I decided to try to find solutions to problems.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 11:51:14
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I should add that ASIO4ALL is just a wrapper for WDM drivers so you should make sure these are up to date. Whether you can change sample rate from Sonar or ASIO4ALL depends on whether the soundcards WDM driver will support that. I'm frankly amazed that you seem to have over £1100 worth of Software (Cubase, Sonar and Soundforge) and yet are still messing around trying to get ASIO4ALL to work with what seems to be an onboard soundcard (any decent soundcard will not require you to use ASIO4ALL). If you are serious enough to spend all that on software, you should also do yourself a favour and get serious about your soundcard. It makes no sense to me to say you are happy with the capabilities of your soundcard when it is clearly causing you such problems.
post edited by Mr. Ease - 2010/08/04 11:54:05
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 12:05:21
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Artur I see the problem. The first slider's label displays "0,9,0 dB" with two decimal points, which makes no sense. The second and third show just "dB" without any number, which also doesn't make sense. What "Graphic EQ" plug-in is this? What is its name, what company makes it? Artur Just at the moment, I am satisfied with the capabilities of my audio card, so I decided to try to find solutions to problems. It's likely that the solution to making your system run pro audio software properly -- the first problem, not the Graphic EQ display problem -- will be to upgrade to an audio interface that's intended to be used with pro audio software. Or maybe not. But you should be prepared for the possibility.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 12:30:56
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My guess with regards to the graphics problem is that it's a Regional and Language Options setting (Control Panel).
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 12:38:03
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That would be why there's a comma rather than a period for the decimal point, but the rest is just plain weird. I can't place that UI. Is it one of the really old Cakewalk plug-ins? One that comes with Sound Forge? My elderly SF6's plug-ins look "newer," fancier than that. [edit] Or is this showing Sound Forge running inside Sonar, then as a stand-alone? Artur, you'll need to give more information about what you did. Those tiny pieces of screenshot don't tell much by themselves.
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Artur
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 12:57:40
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"WDM driver will support that..." it support. "I'm frankly amazed..." Because of the features of my work, I occasionally go out only to the laptop. But this does not apply to the topic . "My guess with regards..." I changed the language from Russian into English. This is not supported. Because the problem only version 8.5.3 I tend to think that the problem because of something else. "Graphic EQ" it is tool from Sound Forge. This can be any tool from there, the result is always the same: no parameter values are displayed. The problem occurs when I am using any tools from Sound Forge within Sonar. When I run Sound Forge separately, then everything is displayed correctly.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 13:12:34
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Artur "WDM driver will support that..." it support. "I'm frankly amazed..." Because of the features of my work, I occasionally go out only to the laptop. But this does not apply to the topic . "My guess with regards..." I changed the language from Russian into English. This is not supported. Because the problem only version 8.5.3 I tend to think that the problem because of something else. "Graphic EQ" it is tool from Sound Forge. This can be any tool from there, the result is always the same: no parameter values are displayed. Sound Forge plugins have always been dodgy when used inside of Cakewalk products. More often than not, they don't work.
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Artur
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 13:23:02
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Prior to that, I spent several years working with Home Studio 2004, then multiple versions of Sonar, and only after version 8.0.2 in 8.5.3 revealed this annoying problem.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 13:35:24
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Mod Bod Sound Forge plugins have always been dodgy when used inside of Cakewalk products. More often than not, they don't work. I just don't bother trying them. They're fine for their intended purposes, used in their intended host. But I think they're not meant to be used in other hosts. It doesn't matter, really, since the plug-ins provided with Sonar are probably a lot better. That I can't use them is a very minor irritation, easy to ignore.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 13:37:14
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Artur Prior to that, I spent several years working with Home Studio 2004, then multiple versions of Sonar, and only after version 8.0.2 in 8.5.3 revealed this annoying problem. I would suggest that you use the official Bug Report form found at http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/ProblemReporter/Default.aspx That way you can get this bug in the Queue to be fixed.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 13:39:09
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Artur Prior to that, I spent several years working with Home Studio 2004, then multiple versions of Sonar, and only after version 8.0.2 in 8.5.3 revealed this annoying problem. You want to keep using the old plug-ins because you're familiar with them, comfortable operating them? I can understand that. But I don't know whether the problem can be fixed. It might just be that they're not going to be compatible, and their working in previous Sonar versions was just a coincidence -- an incompatibility that hadn't been "triggered" before... was suddenly triggered by some new feature or other. Or it could be some other change on your system is the cause of the strange formatting. Hard to guess.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 13:51:13
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Okay, I've found the EQ in question. The dB displays all look fine running Windows with English (US) locale selected, so I suspect it's a defect in Sony's Russian-language localization of the plug-in. If so, you'll need to report the bug to Sony. The Sony Graphic EQ I'm using is version 1.0s, build 1471. It came with Sound Forge 6.0. I'm running Sonar 8.5.3.282, 32-bit (the Sony plug-ins don't even appear in my 64-bit version).
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 14:23:24
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"official Bug Report..." Thanks, I thought about problem need to write here. Just found a Sound Forge 6, yes indeed everything is displayed properly, perhaps the only problem with Sound Forge 10, and only in 8.5 Sonar
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 15:09:56
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What version of the Graphic EQ comes with Sound Forge 10?
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Artur
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 16:47:15
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It's 1.0s Build 1402 ps. I am missed this: "suspect it's a defect in Sony's Russian-language localization..." - I always use the English version of the audio software.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 16:58:06
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If I were in your position, Artur, I would simply bag the SF plugin. I wouldn't even waste a brain cell thinking about it. It's not like its some one-of-a-kind effect. I have lots of plugins that were bundled with other products and most of them don't work within SONAR, much as I'd like them to. Fortunately, none of them is irreplaceable. Certainly a graphic equalizer would not qualify as an irreplaceable plugin - SONAR has a perfectly usable graphic EQ if that's what you want. (Personally, I would never use a graphic EQ, period - but that's another story.)
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Artur
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 17:07:48
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Yes, there is no irreplaceable things, but the graphic equalizer is a simple example. Not correctly displays the values of all that the package SF.
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 17:17:14
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All the Sound Forge plug-ins are likely to have similar problems. I think this is probably Sony's problem, not Cakewalk's, but that's just an informed guess. "It's 1.0s Build 1402" Definitely odd. I've never upgraded past Sound Forge 6.0, yet my build number is higher than that. Have you checked your Sony account for the latest updates?
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Meffy
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 17:19:01
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bitflipper (Personally, I would never use a graphic EQ, period - but that's another story.) I do... sometimes. But I prefer Eiosis. Yum. But yes, another story.
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Artur
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Re:Bugs in Sonar 8.5.3
2010/08/04 17:31:35
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Download the latest update, I will write later. "Small speed, so it's not coming soon"
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