Butch Vig Vocals | Waves Audio

Fun steampunk GUI! Reminds me of the Bitmap Bros. game "The Chaos Engine"
 
I don't really Waves, but I think this looks like a cool and useful vocal strip!

Another freebie for Bapu....

Waves is off my list...has been for a while...

Until that "WaveShell" is gone...they are for me...
Sad, because they have some good plugins...
but many are also BIG CPU hogs...

I'm also not fond of the WUP idea...but I also realize
they do have to make money...and, since they've had
crazy sales for the past 2 years, I'm sure they are doing
well...

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carl
meh, no probs here. CPU is fine, I run tons of them in projects.
Mine have already paid for themselves in sales & have used them daily w/o any major issues since 2001.
Love the new dbx too.

WUP is the same as Sonar's membership plan.
You don't have to pay unless you want updates & you can use the plugins after the membership is up.

Yep...well aware...but they are still heavy hitters on the CPU...
I had Diamond and a ton of others...was working my way to Mercury...
but then bailed...too many problems with the WaveShell...I know they
get them fixed...but just too much hassle...and too much money with 
the more you have for WUP....YMMV...

At least they have FINALLY woken up to a reasonable price...seems $99 intro
has become pretty much the norm!  I applaud them for that...

carl
What was the problem with Waveshell?
I've had crashes in past using Sonar with Waves-VST3 but not that much anymore.

They weren't major...but it seemed that every time Sonar did an update, or Waves did an update,
WaveShell skitzed....I just got tired of it...I was also annoyed by the fact that they just can't do 
"Plugins" and instead have to use a "SHELL" in which their plugins must run....that's just eating
more storage, memory, and another monkey wrench in the system...

I know the great love for Waves...I loved them too...but just got tired of it, realized I was
getting "caught in a trap" by constantly trying to reach Mercury, having hundreds of plugins
that I would probably never used.

Waves are great...but I've got ample others that do pretty much the same thing...and, at the 
time, did pretty well in offing them...so it was all good.

Looks like a time machine!!!
 
Rocky

BTW...I did find that the StudioRack helped greatly with 
CPU efficiency, especially running multiple plugins...
there was a noticeable improvement...
 

Been looking forward to this since they announced it back around Xmas, hate the look of it, but it makes up for that :)
I use heaps of waves stuff, 'almost' exclusively, never had any problems with or thought the CPU usage was high, no issues with waves shell either, easy install, a breeze, and for me the easiest plugins to use and get the sound I am looking for with the least effort. Took me while to actually try waves, listened to all the horror stories etc, then took the plunge, and it's been smooth sailing ever since, just wish I didn't wait so long.

Thought so...very kewl...South Paws!
(I'm not a SP, but admire them!  LOL)

jih64
Been looking forward to this since they announced it back around Xmas, hate the look of it, but it makes up for that :)
I use heaps of waves stuff, 'almost' exclusively, never had any problems with or thought the CPU usage was high, no issues with waves shell either, easy install, a breeze, and for me the easiest plugins to use and get the sound I am looking for with the least effort. Took me while to actually try waves, listened to all the horror stories etc, then took the plunge, and it's been smooth sailing ever since, just wish I didn't wait so long.

Obviously different systems will behave differently because of "different" hardware and software interaction.
THIS is the primary reason for updates...

Never had anything catastrophic...it was always more of a nuisance....but, at the time, the going prices were good,
there were other things that I needed more, and decided just to "remove" Waves.  Coincidentally...I haven't had a 
SINGLE crash since...NOT ONE....and I use both Platypus and Pro Tools....

I do still own StudioRack, EK Guitars, OK Louder, and OK Pumper....the freebies...but they are
not installed....I also have the new Waves version of Ardour installed (TracksLive)

I have no qualms with Waves...just some of the idiosyncrasies...

Color me skeptical...
 

Created in collaboration with Grammy®-winning producer Butch Vig

What does this mean? That maybe you can get yerself one of them Grammies too, for 99 bucks?
More likely, it means "Butch let us put his name on it for a piece of the action. If he'd said no, we'd have just gone down to the next name on the list."

3-band EQ with a distinct frequency character

What does this mean? That if you specify 1 KHz it might select 1.5 KHz because that's what Butch would have selected? More likely, it means the frequency knob has no numbers on it.

LoCut, HiCut and MidDip filters for removing unwanted frequencies

At last! A cut/cut/dip filter, just like...uh...every EQ I have?

Compressor and de-esser

OK, I admit that's handy. You can save some mouse clicks by not having to load your usual compressor and de-esser. Mostly, you don't have to deal with all those confusing knobs that are on your other comps. Butch only needs one knob, and he's got a Grammy.
 
Waves' real talent is marketing. Not that the products are bad - so far all I've tried have been decent. Not spectacular, but decent. And every bit as good as competitors' equivalent products that sell for half as much. A few are even unique. But this trend toward dumbed-down plugins isn't doing anyone any favors. The rubes will buy this one and will still be unhappy with their mixes. Waves will come to the rescue next year with the "One-knob Rick Rubin Vox in a Box". And they'll be unhappy all over again.
 
I will, however, give them credit for the imaginative UI. Oh sure, it's absolutely awful, a perfect example of how not to do an ergonomic design. But give 'em credit for taking a chance.
 
 
Sorry, I just hadn't had my annual Waves rant so far this year. Now that it's out of the way I can leave them be for awhile.
 

SvenArne
Fun steampunk GUI! Reminds me of the Bitmap Bros. game "The Chaos Engine"

 
Now THAT was a cool game.
 
/M
 

I'd rather have Shirley Manson's vocals on my track.

It's not that relevant. In the end it's name on it & his endorsement like many other products.
Obviously he was involved with the development but to what extent I don't know.
To guess would be mere speculation & not the criteria I use to judge the quality or value of a product.