Buying 2nd hand Pro Audio

You can't buy a previously owned copy of Pro Audio. 

Yes! If it's an unregistered version.

Why would you even want a copy of Pro Audio?

Sarcasm, right?

Cakewalk and Twelve Tone Systems before them did not and still not allow the resale of a software licence that has been registered. Transfers not allowed.

IF you can get an unregistered version then as Craig said yes go ahead and buy it. I know some who say they're still running it even though they have much more recent versions of Sonar.

Why do you want to?

Anderton

John
If its unregistered it wasn't previously owned. 

It could have been previously owned, but not registered...

So, As I stated. Yes! If it's an unregistered version.
 
Also... 
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2505356/it-management/eu-court-rules-resale-of-used-software-licenses-is-legal----even-online.html 
and...
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120703/11345519566/eu-court-says-yes-you-can-resell-your-software-even-if-software-company-says-you-cant.shtml
 
Just saying, although I can't think of a reason for wanting ProAudio other than nostalgia 

Kalle Rantaaho
Of course you can buy a used one, if you find one (not to mention an unused one)! Why would anyone say otherwise?? You just can't register it, and the purchase is against the EULA. IIRC you can also install it and use it, if it comes with the codes.
IMO it's just silly to make a noise about "innocently misusing" a 20 year old software. Actually, that's  taking care of a noble heritage :o)
I think you do need an ooold OS to run Pro Audio, at least the earlier ones, though.

Yes true, but I also want to know if it will work and if someone will sell it as well. So the question if it is legal is unavoidable on the forum of the manufacturer 

Brando

BENT
 
Just saying, although I can't think of a reason for wanting ProAudio other than nostalgia 

It's the vintage sound you just can't get from new code. 

Silly me, didn't even think of that.
In Features & Ideas, I'm going to suggest Cake develops a ProChannel Module to emulate the 1990's hexadecimal warmth that you just don't hear these days.

Kalle is correct. Software, CD key and S/N were it... There was zero requirement to even register the software.

mudgel
I remember several years ago discussing this issue with someone from Cakewalk's customer support service. I was surprised how actively Cakewalk pursue individuals who sell older copies of Sonar. It helps to ensure the provenance of an item and that the sale won't contravene Cakewalk's licence agreement. They will and have taken legal action to protect their rights.

So it actually makes no sense to ask someone over here, or in Coffee House, wants to sell his used copy?

I obviously want it for nostalgic reason. I already legally own Sonar 7 and Cakewalk 6.0 Express. So what should I do to get Pro Audio?

Brando

BENT
 
Just saying, although I can't think of a reason for wanting ProAudio other than nostalgia 

It's the vintage sound you just can't get from new code. 

It is true. In the old days, the 1's and 0's used by computers had much softer edges than the new sharp edged numbers. Older software was designed to schmooze with those "soft" bits in a way that is not fully captured even by expensive plugins like Bullpuckyaudio's Vinatage BitBlur, or Nakedemperor's Bitmusher Pro. I still use ProAudio to capture the richer fuller feel of the old technology.

Could you do it - yes.  It would clearly violate the licensing for you and for the person selling it, and more than that it would violate the trust that the Cakewalk folks have given us for decades now, where they allow us the freedom and the really unheard of capability to have it installed on multiple machines, with really nothing but our collective 'word' that we will only run it on a single machine at a time.
 
I don't know about you, but dongles and restrictive licensing are pretty much universally hated, and it has been expressed in these forums many times by lots of folks that Cakewalk software users GREATLY appreciate the way Cakewalk has chosen to deal with licensing.
 
So I guess in the end, YOU have to decide if your interest in obtaining a 'used' copy of any of their software outweighs the value you place on your word, and the same could be said for whoever might contemplate selling or even giving away a used copy of any of their software.
 
Every Cakewalk install requires the user to explicitly check boxes agreeing not to sell or transfer the software under any circumstances.
 
Cakewalk works hard to survive in a competitive market, and they would cease to exist if enough people gave away or resold copies of their software.  Perhaps prior to that, they would attempt some more extensive software license protection mechanism, such as dongles or worse.  I certainly would not care to see that happen, and hope others feel the same way.
 
I recall a small number of 'example' cases, where individuals were sued successfully by software companies, and while it not likely to be determined to be a max fine for it, each instance of piracy of software does include up to $100,000 and/or up to a year in jail.  However likely or not likely any legal action would ensue, for ME, I will continue to respect and honor the trust Cakewalk places in me, and I value the continued existence of their products and am quite happy to play by the rules.
 
Bob Bone
 

dubdisciple
Best bet is one of those dusty stores that sells lots of old unopened stock they fell upon. I have seen odder titles than old cakewalk packages.

Exactly.^^^^