bapu
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By the skin of my teeth.
Today the new 64bit machine was to be put in place of the old DAW.
However I needed to fire up the machine to get one last file from the C: drive.
BSOD, memory dumps and locks-ups. Sometimes a BSOD on boot up. Sometimes after XP is running or lock ups while XP is running. Nothing was changed, removed or added on the old machine since I started the 64bit DAW build and in fact it was simply shut down all that time.
I was able to get the file I needed. The bummer is now I need to determine what is the root cause of the failures as I planned to make the old DAW a personal XP workstation by doing a clean install after I was completely comfortable with the W7 64bit install.
What a pain. At least the new DAW is running great.
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 14:34:03
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It's obviously jealous.
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 15:22:58
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You can run a mem_test to see if the memory is causing the prob...or nuke the machine.
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 15:23:53
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So far, the removal of the oldest drive seems to have solved the problem.
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 15:50:34
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Once again, art imitates life...
[dodges flying canes]
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 16:38:51
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UbiquitousBubba
Once again, art imitates life...
[dodges flying canes]
Them are fighting words.....( putting dentures mouthpiece on) 
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UbiquitousBubba
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 16:48:31
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Somebody ring the bell REALLY LOUD, please!
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 16:51:35
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I think that's Quasimoto's job....
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 17:15:33
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Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 21:24:47
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With an older machine..... install a new drive, reinstall the OS and it should run pretty decent again.
Old drives and corrupted OS cause lots of issues.
This lappy ran like CRAP..... bsod, freezes, all sorts of issues. I reformatted the drive and reinstalled the OS and it was like a new machine again.... it's still running smooth cause I'm typing on it right now.
I haven't had any bsod or major issues in quite some time.....
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bapu
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/13 22:02:41
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I hear ya Herb.
In this case it was the samples drive. Fortunately all was copied/installed to the DAW so it's failure was of little consequence.
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/14 01:08:25
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Well, that was a close call. I'm glad it turned out OK.
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/14 08:26:15
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I can recall several times where I prayed that the computer would boot "one last time" so I could retrieve data from it.
An old trick I have used successfully more than once was to remove the old "failed" drive and configure it as a slave (using the jumpers on it) and installing it in the new machine. I was able to read the drive and copy the important files off of it successfully.
I now use carbonite online backup to save my important files, so I do sleep soundly and computer issues don't scare me quite so much. I did have to use carbonite to restore files from my previous "business" machine when it crashed and all the praying I did didn't get it to boot one last time. That was scary. But I was able to get everything back. It took a few days for the data download but by the end od several days, it was all there.
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/15 17:28:09
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Guitarhacker
I can recall several times where I prayed that the computer would boot "one last time" so I could retrieve data from it.
An old trick I have used successfully more than once was to remove the old "failed" drive and configure it as a slave (using the jumpers on it) and installing it in the new machine. I was able to read the drive and copy the important files off of it successfully.
I now use carbonite online backup to save my important files, so I do sleep soundly and computer issues don't scare me quite so much. I did have to use carbonite to restore files from my previous "business" machine when it crashed and all the praying I did didn't get it to boot one last time. That was scary. But I was able to get everything back. It took a few days for the data download but by the end od several days, it was all there.
I was there this morning. A REALLY vicious virus nailed a couple of our computers (I believe from what I heard that it came with the prior infection and remained hidden like a time bomb). What was really a shock was when I took the bad OS drive and hooked it up as a slave (like you said above) to clean it on a "good" PC, and my virus checkers on that PC (Malwarebytes and Avast) found the same latent rootkit on THAT PC as well! Fortunately, that one hadn't "gone off" yet - *whew!* I'm also finding that no "one" virus checker found all the parts. AVG found some (I'm moving away from this A/V), Malwarebytes found more, Spybot found some and Avast found the most. I also have Carbonite, but one of the problems with this infection is that it was in the "normal" files, the system restore files, the master boot record (yikes!) AND had lasted long enough to be saved by Carbonite... Yay. You can imagine what I'd probably do to the punk that wrote the virus... I'd seen infections labeled as "Low," "Medium" and "High" before, but this was the first I've seen labeled "Severe." On one I even had to reflash the BIOS! It wasted about 36 hours of work time getting back up...
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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bapu
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/15 21:33:39
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I was thinking about this technique of declaring a drive a slave.
Can that be done with SATA drives?
I mean isn't plugging it into port > 0 by definition a "slave"?
In my case of the failed drive, it was SATA.
PS I've never studied a SATA drive closely. I've just plugged them in.
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craigb
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Re:By the skin of my teeth.
2011/06/16 00:31:57
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My current PC handles SATA's by how they're plugged in on the motherboard - SATA1 needs to be bootable. Slaves are connected to SATA's 2 thru 4. Although you could put a bootable drive in a different SATA slot as long as there aren't any drives plugged into an earlier slot, if you put a non-bootable drive ahead of the bootable one, the PC just sits there and doesn't boot up.
(I tried to declare a drive a slave, but it quoted Lincoln and I had to free it...)
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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