[CORRECTED] How to create Tremolo & Portamento?

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2014/11/14 16:35:59 (permalink)

[CORRECTED] How to create Tremolo & Portamento?

I like to use pitch bend in my projects when desired, but I've never used Tremolo. From what I understand, this is the smooth transition from one note to the next using a bend.
 
How can I implement a Tremolo effect between the two notes? This question applies to TTS tracks and SoundCenter tracks alike. Any instructions on how to achieve this are greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks!
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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 16:41:30 (permalink)
    Tremolo is traditionally thought of a simple volume level effect where the level moves up and down rather rapidly.
     
    For years many guitar amps have had a "Vibrato" knob on them that really provided a tremolo effect, while many guitars have "tremolo" bars that in actuality provide a vibrato effect.
     
    Regardless of that trivia, if I am interpreting your question correctly, you are actually asking about a portamento effect.
     
    See if your instrument has a portamento parameter and turn that up to give it a listen and see if that is what you have in mind.


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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 16:42:36 (permalink)
    Tremolo is amplitude modulation, where vibrato is pitch modulation. Maybe somebody can pop in here with a recommendation for a plug.

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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 16:46:41 (permalink)
    It's easy if you are using DimPro or Rapture. Just apply the LFO to amplitude (for tremolo) or pitch (for vibrato).
     

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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 16:51:18 (permalink)
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    Tremolo is traditionally thought of a simple volume level effect where the level move up and down rather rapidly.
     
    For years many guitar amps have had a "Vibrato" knob on them that really provided a tremolo effect, while many guitars have "tremolo" bars that in actuality provide a vibrato effect.
     
    Regardless of that trivia, if I am interpreting your question correctly, you are actually asking about a portamento effect.
     
    See if your instrument has a portamento parameter and turn that up to give it a listen and see if that is what you have in mind.


    Yes! You are right. Portamento is what I was thinking of.
     
    For the record, I would also like to know about Tremolo, as opposed to the traditional modulation effect. I would love to achieve that also, if anyone can guide me. Thanks again!
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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 16:55:24 (permalink)
    mike_mccue
    For years many guitar amps have had a "Vibrato" knob on them that really provided a tremolo effect, while many guitars have "tremolo" bars that in actuality provide a vibrato effect.

     
     
    True observation.  Funny thing, misnaming those controls.


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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 16:56:47 (permalink)
    The suggestions about Tremolo above will work great. You can do it either within the instrument as modulation or with a "tremolo" audio effect on the track.
     
    If you want Portamento effect that has to be built in to the actual "Instrument", an audio track effect will be too late in the signal flow, so you'll want to look for a portamento knob or slider in your instrument. TTS should have one... it's been a long time since I used it but I'm sure it has it.
     
     
     
    If you are working within the instrument than "MIDI effects" also apply, but general purpose automation has probably eclipsed the use of CC style MIDI effects with virtual instruments such as you mentioned.


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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 17:01:01 (permalink)
    You can make your own tremolo effect in Guitar Rig pretty easily - just hook up an LFO (modifier) to a volume pedal (dynamics). Load both effects into the rack, then drag the little control handle (cross icon to the right of where it says LFO) onto the slider on the volume pedal. Next, open the extended controls for the LFO by clicking the downward arrow on the yellow strip on the right of the module. Here you will see the modulation mapping you just made, and you can control its amplitude with the slider.

    You can control the rate with the rate knob (sync if necessary) and you can also set the form of the modulation to either sine, triangle, square or random. The horizontal and vertical lines on the wave display can be used to set the start and end points of the wave you're using.

    You can then adjust the volume pedal controls to taste. I know there is a dedicated tremolo effect in Guitar Rig but I find the LFO/Volume pedal method is a lot more versatile.

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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 17:02:13 (permalink)
    Portamento is still in TTS-1. The button at the top of each track in  the TTS-1 UI opens the instrument editor for the track. The portamento setting is in the instrument editor.
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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/14 17:09:50 (permalink)
    The Sonitus Surround can create a tremolo using the focal point and attenuation settings with a signal path through the focal point and attenuation ring. Try these settings:
    zoom=1
    input=mono
    focal point=on
    attenuation=91
    path=on
    closed path=yes
    path time=0.46
    Drag one of the path nodes to the grid just above the focal point outside of the attenuation ring and the other node to the grid below the focal point outside the attenuation ring. This should give you a starting point to play with.
     
     
    post edited by scook - 2014/11/14 17:22:11
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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/15 07:34:03 (permalink)
    If you want to add tremolo to audio, or to a synth that does not have a tremolo facility the VKFX Preamp/Stereo Tremolo - VST & ProChannel available for the Cakewalk shop for 7.99 UK pounds (probably around $12 in the US store) is a good tool, as is the whole VKFX bundle. You can either use it in Prochannel or the effects bin depending on you preference.
     
    If you want something with more features Melda Productions MMultiband Tremolo. This is capable of simple tremolo effects and much more. Modulating different frequency bands at different rates and depths can make it sound like a modulated filter or even a phaser at some settings.

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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/15 12:14:14 (permalink)
    You can also draw a tremolo waveform (along with several others) as a controller. The draw tool has several options other than freehand draw and line.

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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/15 12:54:15 (permalink)
    You can also create a good portamento by automating oscillator pitch and fine tuning the resulting envelope.
    You can get even more creative by automating the separate notes of a chord to glide from any 2 chords.
     
    You might have to use separate instances of the same soft synth to do this
     
    Remember to insert a controller setting the pitch back to normal before the next note(s) begin.

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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/11/15 20:50:36 (permalink)
    there's a free vst with tremolo and panner I use a lot called SIMPLE TREMOLO, I've grab it on the web for free years ago. Google it.
    it is ridicously simple and easy going. Sometimes panner does a panoramic tremolo that worksjust  fine.

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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/12/03 16:05:22 (permalink)
    Thank you for all the answers, guys! I appreciate it. For the record, I was initially requesting help on creating Portamento when I accidentally mistook it for Tremolo.
     
    I was doing some research on Portamento and I came across this URL in Cakewalk Documentation:
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=Views.22.html#1540732
     
    This is great, but I'm slightly confused. The screenshot in the middle of the page -- what is it from? It doesn't look familiar.
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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/12/03 16:10:03 (permalink)
    It is the Step Sequencer, uplink to this page is http://www.cakewalk.com/D...amp;help=Views.11.html
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    Re: How to create Tremolo? 2014/12/03 17:59:31 (permalink)
    LOL you could spend a week just trying out the different suggestions offered. Can't say we aren't an enthusiastic bunch!
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