AnsweredCPU Movement in the Performance window SOLVED (for me anyway)

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2013/11/27 06:58:17 (permalink)

CPU Movement in the Performance window SOLVED (for me anyway)

When I open X1 or X2 , when I look at the performance window there is no CPU movement.
On X3 after opening I see a lot of CPU movement in the window.
 
Is there an explanation for this ?
Does Sonar use a lot of CPU even though nothing is playing and nothing is being done?
post edited by cowboydan - 2013/11/27 13:10:56
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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 07:02:00 (permalink)
    Are you opening the same project?
    And what's it like when you playback and record?
    Also temporarily disable your virus scanner.
    Why are you running 32 bit windows?

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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 07:04:45 (permalink)
    Not the same projects. I get more activity with playback and record and I only use the windows security on the computer.
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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 07:42:41 (permalink)
    In support of CowboyDan's question, I took 2 screenshots...
     
    First, Cakewalk Sonar X2 at rest using no processor...
    http://stabilitynetwork.blob.core.windows.net/g-tunes/Screenshot%20(13).png
     
    Second, Cakewalk Sonar X3 at rest using 2.4% of the processor...
    http://stabilitynetwork.blob.core.windows.net/g-tunes/Screenshot%20(12).png
     
    For the X3 image, I waited for a while to see if I could get the host to go quiet, but it did not.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 08:12:07 (permalink)
    Ok to be clear is playback and record worse with X3 than it is with X2?
     
    Please use the same project so you are comparing eggs with eggs (open X2 project, save as X3, open it again) to see if this makes a difference.
     
    Please disable virus scanner when you are opening the projects (not sure what you mean by "windows security", but if it's security essentials then that is a virus scanner).
     
    ... and do a defrag first.
     
    Then you may have a point :).
     
    Cheers...
     
    Alex
     
    p.s. Why are you running 32 bit windows you realise you are not addresssing all of your memory above 4gb?
    post edited by CakeAlexS - 2013/11/27 08:25:02

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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 08:27:04 (permalink)
    p.s. Geoff you are running 64 bit windows not 32 bit, so not exactly eggs comparing with eggs, but I get the point.... I suggest checking out what I said though here and in the other post to make this a little more scentific:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Lag-switching-between-projects-m2939170.aspx
     
    The other thing is that nobody here is stating how they are opening their projects. Are they opening sonar and the project at the same time from windows, or are they opening sonar, waiting for a minute, then opening a project?

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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 09:42:44 (permalink)
    He Alex
    I am also running Windows x64. I have no issue with the sound of the tracks or anything as far as that goes. It just seems strange that with the same setup (computer, sound card, etc) in x2 gives nothing in the performance windo with cpu cores and with X3 I have all cores jumping around without doing anything.
    BTW I just start Sonar and wait for the Quick Menu and then open the file. I hope just like everyone else.
    I also have 16Gig of memory working as to not have the CPU working too hard.
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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 10:22:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2013/11/27 13:21:37
    Ah you've written Windows 8/32bit in your header, so it's 64 bit :)
    Anyway you may have a point, I would recommend though going through the optimizations in this post and the other post to see if it makes a difference first before we can point at a smoking gun.

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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 11:35:52 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby cowboydan 2013/11/27 13:20:11
    Preferences > Audio > Playback and Recording > Always Stream Audio Through FX.
     
    This setting  and functionality are new to X3. X1/X2 will behave similarly after you start and stop playback once, enabling the audio engine. But the idle load will still be lower because it doesn't stream silent audio through all FX all the time. The advantages of doing this are documented in the New Features section of the Ref. Guide.
    post edited by brundlefly - 2013/11/27 12:14:39

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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 11:37:32 (permalink)
    I didn't know this, thanks for the tip Dave. Let's see if OP reports back that this makes a difference.

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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 12:08:46 (permalink)
    I was under the impression it had to do with  vst 3
    pretty much exactly what dave is saying

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    Re: CPU Movement in the Performance window 2013/11/27 13:10:05 (permalink)
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    Preferences > Audio > Playback and Recording > Always Stream Audio Through FX.
     
    This setting  and functionality are new to X3. X1/X2 will behave similarly after you start and stop playback once, enabling the audio engine. But the idle load will still be lower because it doesn't stream silent audio through all FX all the time. The advantages of doing this are documented in the New Features section of the Ref. Guide.


    That was the one. I went to preferences and unchecked it. Now the idle mode shows nothing on the performance scale.
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