CW: ** DON'T release X1b unitil the end of March ...... **

timboe


CW

So far the list of fixes in X1b is looking good - I'm also sure there is still a lot to do ....... so .........  please delay the release of X1B until the end of March so you can engineer another  3  full weeks of "fixing"  and then have a week for final QA  and then release.

We have waited this far, another  4  weeks of dedicated  "fixing"  wont matter and we would / should  see the list grow even bigger.

Tim

Il wait and chk sum program is in order..

Screw that, they'll never get everything in one go, I say ship it now!

...wicked


Screw that, they'll never get everything in one go, I say ship it now!

AMEN!!!

Spend the next month getting the snap settings fixed please.

It's really not a big ask. Cakewalk can't expect people to be happy when they take such things away. -___-

I think they have to look after "vs" owners more so , simply because the investment you lot made.

I'm sure they were planning X1 etc for a long time, as believe it (or not) the functionality / design of a new GUI takes a fair bit longer than obvious (I studied GUI design / user interaction at uni years ago) . It's not just a simple case of knocking something up in photoshop in a day/week like a few have suggested.

I think they should have fixed the show-stopper bugs first and released a patch for that a long time ago. Then they can focus on all the other not-so-critical bugs and release additional patches afterwards.

The problem with egging them on to delay the patch even further is that a lot of us can't even use X1a in its current form, which means the longer it is delayed, the less we get out of our investment. If they take the OP's advice and delay it until April, that will be 4 months of X1 being useless to a lot of us, which is 1/3 of X1's lifetime when you consider that the next major paid release is only 7 to 8 months away at that time.

If you bought a $99 phone and had to wait 3 months before you could use all it's bells and whistles would you still say "take your time"?

What about if you paid $399?

???

"rushed"???
What's rushed? It should have worked from the git go.

ProMusic27

n0rd


It was stated by Cake that X1b was going to be released Feb / Mar.

But did Cake ever say this year?

Lol... I like X1a, but I still using 8.5.3... I am glad that i have 2 PCs here... Then I can install X1b and test it before went frustrated. And, as a VS 700 owner, this is even worst... X1 will probabilly never fit the VS system as version 8.5 does...


This is the end of the days...


Peace.

They will add an updated plugin for the vs700 with the x1B ...channels trip and views ...ect ....

Eyes

drumr


"rushed"???
What's rushed? It should have worked from the git go.

+1

If I spent 400 on a phone as listed above, and it didn't work as it advertised, I would complain and demand a refund. Cakewalk need to learn there is a limit to how far they can push customers with "releases always have bugs not possible in beta testing" statements.

The only way for them to "learn this" is if everyone stops buying their upgrades.

The only way for them to "learn this" is if everyone stops buying their upgrades.

 
But that'll never happen because...   A) This forum doesn't represent the entire user base so many would still upgrade despite any opinions mentioned here, and B) If literally everyone chose not to upgrade, there might not be any more upgrades.   And then we would be the ones learning...a different DAW.
 
Besides, there always seems to be something that people want in each and every upgrade.  Even if it doesn't completely pan out as expected, there's obviously enough to carry it forward.   Granted, X1 is a little unique because of the GUI overhaul, and yet here we are... where "we" includes those that actually do like X1, despite the changes.   
 
Regardless, I think X1b will be a good indicator of where the "X" series is headed even if it isn't the answer to everyone's problems/wishes - which is likely.   But I'm as curious as the next person to see what's being discussed a month from now.  
 

timboe


CW

So far the list of fixes in X1b is looking good - I'm also sure there is still a lot to do ....... so .........  please delay the release of X1B until the end of March so you can engineer another  3  full weeks of "fixing"  and then have a week for final QA  and then release.

We have waited this far, another  4  weeks of dedicated  "fixing"  wont matter and we would / should  see the list grow even bigger.

Tim

Or here's another view, while still respecting yours Tim.

CW

So far the list of fixes makes the original release look like a bloody shambles... so... please get your fingers out to put these and the doubtlessly longer list of issues you are currently aware of but you have not mentioned in this list in order..... and get it right this time.... as soon as you like!

Many people here had enough faith in the company to invest their time and money trying to support a badly flawed product many being unable to utilise it successfully, they have now been waiting since December to do that.   Plenty long enough already.  And if this fix doesn't significantly cover it, work tirelessly on another one that does.

I don't mind waiting, but unfortunately my Sonar7 is broken because of the X1 install... so other than rolling back with system restore (which I am hesitant to do since the X1b release is now "any moment" for the next 30 days).

If I had just purchased this as NEW software and didn't have a previous version, I would be upset. Having said that, I still would like it to not break previous installations.

timboe


CW

So far the list of fixes in X1b is looking good - I'm also sure there is still a lot to do ....... so .........  please delay the release of X1B until the end of March so you can engineer another  3  full weeks of "fixing"  and then have a week for final QA  and then release.

We have waited this far, another  4  weeks of dedicated  "fixing"  wont matter and we would / should  see the list grow even bigger.

Tim

I find this request a bit strange.

First, why a date? Why end of March? We have no idea how far they are or how far they have to go so even mentioning a date doesn't make any sense.

Secondly, only one week of testing? If stability is what you are after above anything else, I think it would make more sense if they spent another week fixing and three weeks testing rather than the other way round.

Thirdly, why assume that this is the last patch? Why not get this patch out a.s.a.p. after good testing but with the knowledge and intent that a x1c will come out in another month or two. X1c would go further in depth and pick up anything that x1b didn't cover. Like maybe once and for all a gap-less engine before they start piling on any more features in the next version... Why not have as many versions as needed to get X1 as close to 100% stable as possible? I think more minor patches makes more sense then one mega patch that will most likely not be able to address all issues and might well create new ones.

UnderTow

At this point I have found work arounds to the many bugs I have encountered . The  work arrounds can be very slow to find and use , but the work gets done for the most part,
 IMHO I would rather the time is taken to fix the known issues, including those with the vs 700 support and fantom 64 bit problems. Then release the product as if keeping a large portion of your clients depend on it. Also maybe  cc Roland with the potential disaster of a second bug infested release.
Cheers