[CWBRN-31349] - Staff View - snap 1/16th note bug

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2014/10/05 04:36:53 (permalink)
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[CWBRN-31349] - Staff View - snap 1/16th note bug

Here is the bug jsg reported:
1. New project (Normal)
2. New MIDI track.
3. Views -> Staff View
4. Add 4 notes at quarter note intervals (69) A3 by clicking on the stave. 1:1:000
5. Switch to 16th note insert. (hit T select 16ths)
6. Insert 4 16th notes (69) a3 by clicking on the stave. 2:1:000
7. Switch to 1/4 note insert (hit T select 1/4)
8. Insert 1/4 note at 2:2:000, insert 1/4 note at 2:2:240. (this is the first 1/16th note bug)
9. Expected behavior: Note snaps to 1/4 note grid.
10. Actual behavior: Note snaps to 16th note grid.
This is the 1/16th note bug, 100% reproducible. It doesn't take a QA engineer to figure this out.
This bug is relatively benign and useful in some cases due to other bugs.
post edited by TomHelvey - 2015/02/11 12:20:37

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Re: Staff View in Sonar X3e -snap 1/16th note bug 2014/10/05 05:06:53 (permalink)
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Please note that it is entirely possible to really like Sonar while being critical about its behavior, personally I want it to be awesome.

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Re: Staff View in Sonar X3e -snap 1/16th note bug 2014/10/05 05:09:36 (permalink)
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Thanks for this.

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@48/24 & 128 buffers latency is 367 with offset of 38.

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Re: Staff View in Sonar X3e -snap 1/16th note bug 2014/10/05 14:27:17 (permalink)
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TomHelvey
Here is the bug jsg reported:
1. New project (Normal)
2. New MIDI track.
3. Views -> Staff View
4. Add 4 notes at quarter note intervals (69) A3 by clicking on the stave. 1:1:000
5. Switch to 16th note insert. (hit T select 16ths)
6. Insert 4 16th notes (69) a3 by clicking on the stave. 2:1:000
7. Switch to 1/4 note insert (hit T select 1/4)
8. Insert 1/4 note at 2:2:000, insert 1/4 note at 2:2:240. (this is the first 1/16th note bug)
9. Expected behavior: Note snaps to 1/4 note grid.
10. Actual behavior: Note snaps to 16th note grid.
This is the 1/16th note bug, 100% reproducible. It doesn't take a QA engineer to figure this out.
This bug is relatively benign and useful in some cases due to other bugs.




Tom is describing the same bug I am using different words.  Tom, the workaround:  choose the largest note value Sonar allows in the drop down menu (dotted whole note) and then click on any note that has a value of quarter note or larger.  This will reset the snap so that it works (temporarily) as expected.  However, the next time you use a smaller note value (16th or 32nd) the same problem will reappear.
 
I like what you said about one can really like Sonar and still be critical of the parts of the program that don't work correctly or can be improved.
 
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Re: Staff View in Sonar X3e -snap 1/16th note bug 2014/10/06 18:10:14 (permalink)
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OK Thankyou and I agree...

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Re: Staff View in Sonar X3e -snap 1/16th note bug 2015/02/10 14:41:24 (permalink)
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Can anybody please reproduce this in Platinum...
 
Would you mind pasting a CWBRN number here please?
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