[CWBRN-34517] ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?)

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[CWBRN-34517] ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?)

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When we use Smart Tool, Move, or Draw, with pressed Ctrl for Bus Automation, something strange goes on with ProChannel EQ – what was switched off is switched on all by itself, and the changes affect all the equalizers simultaneously. When you move one automation line, the knobs of the rest are turned too, even when they are switched off and have got no automation on them. It looks like the glitch in Quick Group. These changes cannot be undone by CTRL+Z, so you have to open the previously saved copy of the project, or restore the values of EQ as you remember them.
To recreate the bug:
1. You can use any project, or create a new one.
2. Go to Bus Pane, and create several new buses, or use those that already exist.
3. Create automation on any bus (except the latest in the list, that’s important!) for ProChannel EQ. E.g. LF Gain.
4. Click once in the working area (where you draw waveform of buses) in order to take off the selection from the buses. It’s the simplest action of all – just one click in the area to the right from the tracks, not on the track.
5. Press CTRl with Smart Tool or Move and pull the line of automation which has been created.
In case of the bug, you’ll see the following: the curve of automation will freeze and then jump abruptly to the newly chosen value only after you release Ctrl. The knobs of all the equalizers of all the buses will turn. All the switched-off equalizers will switch on – but for the one on which you are leveling automation (if it has been switched off).
 
Animation gif: http://imgur.com/JJRJgWB
post edited by cool - 2016/02/23 07:44:11
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    scook
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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2015/08/03 12:36:33 (permalink)
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    Does look like a bug
     
    Please file a problem report http://www.cakewalk.com/S...Contact/Problem-Report and update the subject with the CWBRN
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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2015/08/03 13:16:36 (permalink)
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    Does look like a bug
     
    Please file a problem report and update the subject with the CWBRN



    Done. Thank for advice!


    post edited by cool - 2015/08/19 23:08:32
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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2015/08/04 09:07:45 (permalink)
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    I reported this a long time ago and was told that I must have been quick groups and just didn't know it. It happened so often that I gave up on the Pro Channel and went back to using the FX bin. I'll be glad if this gets fixed, not because I want to use the FX bin, but I won't have to double check that the PC got enabled by this bug after editing automation. It also happens in Tracks...
     
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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2016/06/16 14:36:55 (permalink)
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    I have reproduced this one. It goes beyond the Pro Channel and busses. Adjusting an envelope within a quick group can affect every envelope in the grouped tracks.
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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2016/08/12 05:39:26 (permalink)
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    One year.

    English is not my native language. Apologize for any mistakes in the text.
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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2017/03/21 00:26:01 (permalink)
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    One year.


    This is a pretty terrible issue. March 2017, any progress on it?

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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2017/10/13 05:46:13 (permalink)
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    This just happened to me and it DEVASTATED my project. All my eq curves are now completely messed up... I'm so mad right now...

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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2017/10/13 09:00:59 (permalink)
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    Quick grouping is long time there (I have just checked in X2)... if nothing is selected, Sonar thinks that everything is selected. I remember there was arguments such behavior is a feature 
    With automations that is just a consequence, when automation is edited the knob is moved, when knob is moved with Ctrl and nothing is selected, all such knobs are moving.

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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2017/10/13 09:03:16 (permalink)
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    I don't see why moving a bus automation would affect a track ever.

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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2017/10/13 10:29:09 (permalink)
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    I don't see why moving a bus automation would affect a track ever.

    OP observation was about buses, that I can reproduce. Do you mean that also change tracks EQs? I am not near Platinum now, so can not test...

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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2017/10/13 10:33:11 (permalink)
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    Ah, you're correct. I figured my problem might be related to this. Here's my post in the main forum.

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    Re: ProChannel EQ Bus Automation Bug (Quick Group bug?) 2017/10/13 14:01:51 (permalink)
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    Hi guys!

    The problem with the busses was solved a couple of months ago (thank you, bakers!). Probably, it is necessary to create one thread for a problem with tracks.

    I could not reproduce similar problem with the tracks . But, firstly, I once encountered this myself, but I do not know under what conditions this bug appeared. If I remember correctly, I tried to change the gain envelope of the clip that was created from the frieze track. But I could not reproduce this scenario either.
    Secondly, I experience difficulties every time I do something with freeze tracks - sometimes they are not cut, sometimes they do not move gain envelope. Perhaps these two problems are connected.

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