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Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
Look at the upper left hand of the forum screen. It says Cakewalk by Roland. I for one am looking forward to what the next 5 years might bring, with a bit of anxiety over the next 18 months. A bit. Not a ton. Integrated control surfaces Integrated keyboards Roland's effects A guitar synth that plugs into my midi interface that isn't my Ztar. A virtual System 700 Maybe even a "does it all" system with midi/audio intefaces that NEVER EVER EVER NEVER fails. That was quick. Edtided for tpyos.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:25:59
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I'm extra glad now I chose a Roland Fantom for my system.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:31:24
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ORIGINAL: space_cowboy
Look at the upper left hand of the forum screen. It says Cakewalk by Roland.
I for one am looking forward to what the next 5 years might bring, with a bit of anxiety over the next 18 months. A bit. Not a ton.
Integrated control surfaces
Integrated keyboards
Roland's effects
A guitar synth that plugs into my midi interface that isn't my Ztar.
A virtual System 700
Maybe even a "does it all" system with midi/audio intefaces that NEVER EVER EVER NEVER fails.
That was quick.
Edtided for tpyos.
And PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, keep Roland FAR away from Cakewalk's manual writing department. Roland makes great products but their manuals suck.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:34:03
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I have been happy with my roland stuff over the years. I have a Super Jupiter rack thing, a JD800 - which is a lush pad machine, a 101, a couple of roland guitar synths, a ton of boss pedals, a roland guitar that looks like this:  Stock photos, but mine is black. I love roland. Their stuff is kind of quirky, but it stands the test of time. My super jupiter and GR300 stuff sound excellent today like they did 20 years ago when they came out. When was the last time you looked at the price of a 303? Roland by Cakewalk, please make one of these that is less than $500. 
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:41:17
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And PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, keep Roland FAR away from Cakewalk's manual writing department.
Roland makes great products but their manuals suck. Though their english is much better than my japanese. Konishiwah.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:44:23
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:51:16
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This unregulated capitalism **** is really pissing me off. What?? Cakewalk was a private company, it was their choice to accept or decline the offer Sonar 7 will be my last Cakewalk purchase. Look what's happened to Digidesign and M-Audio. thats pretty stupid making such a statement without knowing all the facts or what will come.. See YA, dont want to be ya
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:54:12
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The "Cakewalk By Roland" thing was put up in time for the NAMM show. Technically the company is still called Cakewalk but Greg H. wanted to show off the branding that will appear for certain integrated products that will be out in the near future.
I for one would love to see:
- Virtual Jupiter-8 (and not the resource hog the Arturia version is)
- Virtual Juno 60
- Virtual D-50
- Virtual Super JX
- Virtual 808
- Virtual 909
- Virtual CR-78
You get the picture :)
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:57:01
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Capitalism is the instrument of democracy. It allows people to chose by voting with their money. People that are anti-capitalism must not understand the linkage between capitalism, democracy and freedom of choice. Read this book Free To Choose The next time you are upset about the price of gasoline, oil or something else that a cartel or monopoly is involved with, or the next time you choose an item on sale versus a full cost one, you are exercizing capitalism. It is an integral part of our lives in the US. THis is not a pro-democrat or pro-republican philosophy. It is what America is founded on. Or was.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:57:43
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And Roland doesn't even provide any corporate contact info (just tech support, media, and webmaster) so I can let them know how I feel about their unbridled greed and avarice. Katsuyoshi Dan and Hidekazu Tanaka are riding the top of my ****list right now!
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 00:58:21
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also Roland and Cakewalk have been working together for a long time. Their interface for the power studio is an edirol which is made by Roland and what about v-vocal, thats Roland also. Its a smart move, because we are going to be seeing some nice hardware to use with sonar, like a integrated hardware mixer/interface.
Cj
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:03:36
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Why? What about this causes you so much distress? Did Roland do something to you? And as far as I can tell, Roland PAID for shares of TTS. I don't think there is greed anywhere in this transaction, but if you wante to be angry with someone, be angry with the people who got the cash, not the ones who spent it. ORIGINAL: SF_Green
And Roland doesn't even provide any corporate contact info (just tech support, media, and webmaster) so I can let them know how I feel about their unbridled greed and avarice. Katsuyoshi Dan and Hidekazu Tanaka are riding the top of my ****list right now!
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:12:46
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This unregulated capitalism **** is really pissing me off.
What?? Cakewalk was a private company, it was their choice to accept or decline the offer
Sonar 7 will be my last Cakewalk purchase. Look what's happened to Digidesign and M-Audio.
thats pretty stupid making such a statement without knowing all the facts or what will come..
You're missing my point, CJ. I hate seeing private companies (which generally treat their customers very well, like Cakewalk has) getting gobbled up by big corporations like Roland - which is not private - which has purchased Boss, Edirol, Rodgers, and now Cakewalk (at least those are the ones I can find) and are just in the business for the money.
From the Roland web-site:
"The Roland Group is engaged in two major categories of business: electronic musical instruments and computer-related peripherals centered on large-format color printers.
Under our slogan "Inspire the Enjoyment of Creativity", we are steadily expanding our business domain to include the fields of video and images, focusing mainly on video-editing equipment."
Get that - focusing mainly on video-editing equipment. Large format printers.
This can in NO way be good for Cakewalk customers.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:14:05
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ORIGINAL: SF_Green
And Roland doesn't even provide any corporate contact info (just tech support, media, and webmaster) so I can let them know how I feel about their unbridled greed and avarice.
If you go to the Roland site and click on "Corporate" and "Contact us" you get the corporate phone number: Corporate Headquarters Roland Corporation U.S. 5100 S. Eastern Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90040-2938 323-890-3700
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:15:46
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And now all the money we spend goes to Japan instead of Massachusetts.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:17:49
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having become what Volvo and Jaguar have become to Ford, or Chrysler to Daimler-Benz +1 - lets see how long the new Range Rover lasts..
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:20:14
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ORIGINAL: CJaysMusic
also Roland and Cakewalk have been working together for a long time. Their interface for the power studio is an edirol which is made by Roland and what about v-vocal, thats Roland also. Its a smart move, because we are going to be seeing some nice hardware to use with sonar, like a integrated hardware mixer/interface.
Cj
Geezus. Get real.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:23:02
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Cake sold a share of the company, not the whole thing.
As far as the M-Audio/Digidesign/Avid thing is concerned, I dont see the analogy. M-Audio, in my opinion, makes cheap gear. Digi does not. By integrating PT lite or whatever it is called, they are likely actually causing more sales of M-Audio stuff. More sales = more profit = more R&D = more new products.
Capitalism is good. Consumers get to choose what the want at a competitive price.
If you don't like capitalism, look to Cuba. They are driving cars from the 50s because they caused most of the rest of the world to shut them off ages ago. In Cuba, you can choose between any 50 year old car you want.
Big corporations - ever look at Yamaha? What do they NOT make?
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:24:27
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Ognis
Bring back the pictures of beautiful women. That University of Montana or whatever it is does not make my heart pump the same way.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:24:54
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Im 100% real. Im just not a downer and a person who always thinks of the worst in everything. All this is GARBAGE, no one knows what will happen. Can you look in the future??? NO, so i am real, your jsut unreal
Cj
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:25:40
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Big corporations - ever look at Yamaha? What do they NOT make? FOCAS.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:27:36
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ORIGINAL: SF_Green
From the Roland web-site:
"The Roland Group is engaged in two major categories of business: electronic musical instruments and computer-related peripherals centered on large-format color printers.
Under our slogan "Inspire the Enjoyment of Creativity", we are steadily expanding our business domain to include the fields of video and images, focusing mainly on video-editing equipment."
Get that - focusing mainly on video-editing equipment. Large format printers.
This can in NO way be good for Cakewalk customers.
That is a completely different division of Roland and has little to do with the Roland music instrument division. If you go to www.roland.com you will see 7 divisions of the Roland Group. Only one of the 7 is a printer group. The other 6 are all music technology. If you go to www.rolandus.com you see only musical products. Same with Boss, Edirol (also has video) Rogers (organs), RSS (digital mixers) and now Cakewalk. I have had mostly Roland gear for the past 20 years. Included are: XP80, Juno Alpha, VS880, VS880-EX, VM3100 Pro w/RPC-1 card, SPD8, SPD11, (2) GT-3's, ME-5, GR-33, many Boss pedals and KC-300 Keyboard amp. Roland is IMO the best musical hardware company in the world. If as, Cakewalk has stated, they will continue non-intrusive copy protection and listening to customers wishes this will be a great thing.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:40:49
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Roland has assisted Cakewalk for at least five years now, boosting sales and further outstanding developments in Sonar, therefor I guess is that trend will continue 
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:42:00
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Ognis
Bring back the pictures of beautiful women. That University of Montana or whatever it is does not make my heart pump the same way.
Montana huh ?
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:52:51
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I'm using SOnar Platinium on a 6 core Lynx Audio machine and a ton of vintage pre-amps/eq's/comps I build for fun and sometimes money, REDD.47/API/Neve I also use the UAD stuff, and also use a Macbook Logic 9 through Apogee...
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 01:54:38
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The point is this:
% of business focused on audio software:
Cakewalk: 100%
Roland: 8.8%
We will be of little concern to the people at Roland, except what $$ they can get from us. They will be focused on computer peripherals and instruments - that's 73% of their business.
According to Roland's 2007 Annual statement:
Percentage of Sales Consolidated by Segment:
Computer Peripherals Business 40.2%
Musical Instruments 33.1%
Home Electronic musical instruments 11.6%
Computer music equipment and OTHER 8.8%
Audio equipment 6.3%
And I'm not against capitalism, but like any other system of governance, it needs to be regulated to overcome the frailties of human nature. Otherwise we end up with lots of Enrons, Tyco's, Global Crossings, MCI's, etc... Checks and balances and all that good stuff.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 02:45:02
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I don't see this as being that bad. Roland is into alot of different technologies, hell they even make table top CNC milling machines for making prototypes https://www.rolandoutlet.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=154&Click=1291 and digital 3D scanners http://www.rolandoutlet.com/3D_Scanners_s/20.htm. A lot of good technology in my opinion. I'm thinking CW is the missing link in there musical instrument and audio equipment worlds and they've been in the midi biz for years. Add video to that and you got alot going on. Look at how YouTube is taking off and tell me that audio/video editing combo software isn't part of the picture??? or the hardware to go along with it??? I'd like to hope that there are big things to come. Just my .02 Cheers all. A
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 02:51:13
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ORIGINAL: space_cowboy
Look at the upper left hand of the forum screen. It says Cakewalk by Roland.
Just as I suspected.. This forum is THE reason Roland is investing so heavily in Cakewalk. Forums are one thing that Roland could never get right.
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 02:55:39
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The point is this:
% of business focused on audio software:
Cakewalk: 100%
Roland: 8.8% your thinking is flawed. Cakewalk will still be crearing software. There not going to make them create mixers. cj
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RE: Cakewalk By Roland - It Has Begun!!!
2008/01/27 03:11:01
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The point is this:
% of business focused on audio software:
Cakewalk: 100%
Roland: 8.8%
your thinking is flawed. Cakewalk will still be crearing software. There not going to make them create mixers.
cj
Exactly, Cake's got the software and Roland's got the technology for digital mixers and control surfaces and a who knows what else. I think it was a smart move on their part to invest in a section of their bussiness where they don't have a high percentage of expertise and try to mate/grow it with what they do have. Why not partner up with a company who can compliment a well established market share. I'm just hoping it works out well and we end up with some great new tools to use.
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