Cakewalk GPO4 volume issue solved

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2011/04/02 08:36:36 (permalink)

Cakewalk GPO4 volume issue solved

I purchased and downloaded the Garritan Personal Orchestra 4 from Cakewalks offer. Everything went smooth as butter from the purchase to the install. So easy. I loaded up one of my originals that is particularly heavy in the string department. For the first time in my whole career of fooling around with samplers and synths, I finally heard my composition as close to what I hear in my head. As far as the quality of Orchestral sounds, that is. Although, I must tip my hat to the Edirol Orchestral plugin that had become a mainstay in my plugs.
My problem was if I paused the track, I lost the output. Very faint volume. I, finally, found the problem. I went to the preferences and found that the SET CONTROLLERS TO ZERO ON RESTART was on. Cleared the checkbox. I'm in GPO4 heaven. This is one of the best buys I have ever made. THANKS, CAKE!
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    ernietamminga
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    Re:Cakewalk GPO4 volume issue solved 2012/04/03 16:52:28 (permalink)
    Thanks for a very timely (for me) post.
    I had just been trying to use Garritan for some choral music I'm trying to learn, and had the same "suddenly silent" problem you had. Fixed now!

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    Re:Cakewalk GPO4 volume issue solved 2012/04/03 17:03:16 (permalink)
    I think that has been a common gotcha for many with GPO.  I've also been extremely pleased with GPO since purchasing it when Cakewalk originally offered it as an Elite package.  I've been very tempted to also buy Garritan Instant Orchestra since watching Randy Bowser's great YouTube series titled "Blast Off with Instant Orchestra"

    Here is the link to the first part:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIzyTcHrmhw


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    Re:Cakewalk GPO4 volume issue solved 2012/04/04 04:13:22 (permalink)
    Instruments in GPO (and lots of other VST instruments) respond to cc7 (volume) and cc11 (expression).
    cc11 controls timbre and also affects volume.

    Actually the option is "Zero Controllers When Play Stops", under the Project -> MIDI -> tab, under the "Other Options" heading.

    I have to totally disagree that you should turn this setting off at all, it should be turned ON (checked), not Off.
    And for a very good reasons, which go beyond just this volume issue.


    BUT ... you also need to do TWO more things.

    Ahh, sorry, just remembered ... THREE more things.

    1)  Set the "Patch/Controller Searchback Before Play Starts" option to ON (Checked) - this option is also under the "Other Options" heading
    on the same page.


    2)  These are "Project Options", so you need to have a project open to see/alter them. Which means you should save these setting to your templates.
    If you use several templates, you should edit the preferences and re-save them.
    If you don't save them to your templates, they won't persist across projects and you'll need to set them for every new project.


    3)  In all your projects, wherever you use ANY instrument that responds to cc11 / cc7, you should explicitely set them at the beginning of every midi track.

    Actually, you should probably be driving the instrument's expression with cc11 anyway - try it and see for yourself what it does.


    Now, whenever you stop the transport, the controllers will Zero.
    And when you start again from anywhere on the timeline, Sonar will search backward in the timeline and set the Midi controllers
    to the last value which was set before the point you are now starting from.

    So the instrument will always sound correct, no matter where in the timeline you start from.

    And then the other reason ... it applies to patch changes too. So any tracks that have patch changes on them, will have the
    correct patch loaded no matter where you start from on the timeline.


    Hope that all makes sense and helps someone.


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