Capo83
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Cakewalk Music Creator LE
Got the program with a recording mic for xmas. When i start recording on my vista laptop the program shuts down! all the newest vista software downloads have been made. HELP me please!
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57Gregy
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 06:14:45
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Yes, but is MC LE compatible with Vista? It's been around for a long time. Does it list the system requirements on the CD/DVD box or sleeve? Go to the Cakewalk site and see if there are any updates for LE that you can download. And is it a USB mic? Sorry you're having problems, but welcome to the forum!
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57Gregy
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 06:44:14
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Okay, there is a Music Creator 5 LE, which is "Optimized" for XP and Vista. Is that the version you have? Are you getting any error messages? If so, what is/are the exact messages. Have you tried connecting a different audio source other that the USB mic, if that's what you have? Do you have a CD player you can plug into the sound card's line in? Or an electric guitar or a keyboard you can plug into the line in. Or a regular mic to plug into the mic input. I'm presuming you have a USB mic, but maybe not? http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/MusicCreator/Page.aspx?ID=MCLE Some more info in there.
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 08:47:47
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Yes, it's a usb mic. Don't have any other sourses for the time. And i think my software is Music creator 3 LE. So maby thats the problem. Have alredy dowloaded the free downloads for MC LE. The error message i have to get back to, bacause I can't seem to do any recordings now, the program won't find the mic. Thanks for answering.
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 09:17:04
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First... I didn't know there was an LE version of MC..... OK..... Second.... the USB mic is about the worst way to go with MC and recording audio. My suggestion: return it and get a nice interface, with a normal LoZ mic. You will be much happier. Some people here will be happy to recommend some low cost decent quality mics to choose from.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 11:51:04
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it's my first mic, and I'll think I'll be happy with it for a while. It's a samson Go Mic. What's the main reason for not using usb mic vs a normal jacked mic ? What's a interface? probobly a noob question, but that's me :) the error messege is the normal "program stopped working" message. think i have to uppgrade to MC 5 LE when i get home from xmas vacation..
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 11:54:03
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 14:56:54
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USB mics are basically another sound card..... it becomes a bit confusing to the computer to figure out where the audio is coming from and going to when it has to deal with TWO soundcards. This relates to the next question.... by using a dedicated interface that handles both audio & midi, you can leave the factory card in the computer, and simply tell MC to use the interface fro all IN/OUT functions.... by doing this, there are generally NO problems or conflicts with the factory card...... because you are really only using ONE card/interface..... however, by using the factory card and the USB mic (which the computer sees as another card) there is plenty of opportunity for conflict. ) Generally, as you gain experience and understanding you will be able to use 2 cards at the same time, but you also learn from experience that keeping the recording chain as simple as possible reaps HUGE rewards that outweigh the 2 card thing. An INTERFACE is another word for a soundcard that is usually an after market also called a Prosumer card by some. It generally connects by USB or 1394 firewire. Using an interface allows you to really run MC and Sonar to their fullest capabilities. The factory soundcard in the computer is NOT powerful enough to do serious recording....generally. LoZ..... shortcut for saying low impedence as in a mic..... XLR 3 pin connector...usually found on the better quality/professional mics. No shame in asking noob questions..... that's how you learn.....
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2009/12/26 15:02:49
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57Gregy
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 19:25:09
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I think MC 3 is Vista-compatible (confirmation?) so it should work. If you can get MC to open, try to change the Driver Mode to MME, 'Options>Audio>Advanced>Driver Mode'. It took some searching, but I finally found the system specs for MC 3. It is NOT Vista-compatible. Ignore the rest of this post. Close and re-open MC, let the Wave Profiler run. See what happens. If you can't get it to change to MME, you may have to do this: try the attached reset utility. Before you launch MC4. Please download this driver mode utility. http://www.cakewalk.com/support/sonar/drivermode.zip You can use it to launch SONAR in a different driver mode such as MME. If that alone fails, please go to your Windows Start Menu and click "Run". At the prompt, type or paste the following: %APPDATA%/CAKEWALK This will open a folder in Windows Explorer. Find the folder named "Music Creator 4". Right-click on it and choose "rename". Change the folder's name to the following: "Music Creator 4 backup" Launch Music Creator 4 again and allow it to recopy the application data.
post edited by 57Gregy - 2009/12/26 19:37:48
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57Gregy
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/26 19:51:18
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think i have to uppgrade to MC 5 LE when i get home from xmas vacation.. I wouldn't get the LE version (it only comes in the Music Pack, I believe). Just get the full, boxed version of MC 5 for $40, or ask whoever gave you the old program if they could upgrade it for you, since it won't work (probably) on your system. And return the USB mic, unless you want to use it for talking on the internet, I don't know why Cakewalk allowed their software to be sold with USB mics, considering the amount of trouble these mics give people when using MC.
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 09:36:51
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thanks for tips guys! It's MC 3 LE I have, not MC 4 LE, so that is clear. And I can't find any place where it says that it's vista compatible. I have now manadged to change driver mode to MME. But don't know if the program closes when I record, because now I can't mannadge to record. When I open the program, I use the new track that automaticly apperes. In the Audio 1 field/section I press on the input chooser. My samson gomic comes up as a choise, but there supposed to come up 3 new choises next to that(stereo ect.), but i don't. so i dont get to choose my mic, and therefor don't get to record. Another thing is that I have registerd my produckt, but the serial code I got was invalid. Tried to register again the next day, new serial, still invalid. Can this also be because I have an old program? On the registration form, MC LE was a product choise. nothing about 3, 4 ect.
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 09:51:13
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oh, didn't see youre last post. I begin to wonder, is the Music Creator a good music program? isn't it wery cheap? And what is a LE verson of the software? does it just mean that it's a downloaded verson? i see Pro Tools also have a LE verson. They also have a HD verson, whatever that is. And is Music crator a socalled DAW, or is that something i need besides? I'm sorry to hear that usb mic not is that compatible with MC, I kinda liked my new mic. Is there another good music program that works better with usb mic? or is usb mic's just crap? And is there anything else I need to consider if I should buy me a new mic? I just want to record som acoustic gitar with me singing, and make some music. on my computer.
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 10:07:50
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after changing to MME driver mode, you have to close MC and restart it, then let the wave profiler run when it asks - did you do that? also - MC only allows 2 inputs and 2 outputs, so you'd need to go to OPTIONS>AUDIO>DRIVERS and choose your samson as one of the inputs and choose your soundcard as the 2 outputs. MC itself is a great program and well worth the $40 boxed version (even the download version is good, but if you use MIDI at all, get the boxed version). USB mics are problematic at least. you should be able to get it to work with MCLE - otherwise they wouldn't have packaged them together, but they are not the best mics in the world to record with. if you do decide to buy a new mic, go to my website and look at the Home Studio pages. there are tips and recommendations for mics, preamps, mixers and soundcards.
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 10:23:08
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 10:32:36
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it didn't ask for wawe profiler to run i think. the mic and soundcard are choosen as the input and output drivers. Still can't choose my mic. And I don't use MIDI at all.
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 10:34:27
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In the Audio 1 field, as described earlyer, I can't choose my mic. Now i see that i can't neether press the record:on button.
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Beagle
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 11:04:38
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if the wave profiler didn't run, you HAVE to run it or it won't work (just as you describe). close MC restart MC then go to OPTIONS>AUDIO and press the WAVE PROFILER button.
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 12:03:24
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did it. and it seem to work now. haven tried it for long, but it doesn't close when it did before. thank you. But if i desides to uppgrade to MC 5 LE, should I maby take a look at the SONAR 7 also? what is the differens on this to softwares?
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57Gregy
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 12:21:34
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MC 5 LE only comes with the USB Music Pack and some other bundled products. You can't buy just the LE version. The full version of MC 5 costs about $40 US, and is a great recording platform. You would spend many hundreds of dollars, maybe thousands for hardware that can do what MC does, presuming you already have a computer. SONAR 7 has more effects and processes, allows more audio and MIDI tracks and soft synths, and also can record more than 2 tracks at a time. It's similar to MC in funtionality, but also could be more confusing to the beginner. If you can afford it and see a need for the extra stuff, get it. I have SONAR Home Studio 6, and it works great for me.
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/27 19:22:11
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+1 to what greg says, excep that I would add "Sonar 7" is actually Sonar Home Studio 7 or SHS7 and SHS7XL. Sonar 8.5 is the current Sonar version.
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Capo83
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/28 11:15:22
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think my usb mic is broken :-( my recordings sound terrible... so it loocks like i have to return it. What kind of mic should i get me for under 200$ that is good for acoustic gitar and voice recordings?
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57Gregy
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/28 11:45:17
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For $200, I recommend this mic http://www.guitarcenter.com/MXL-MXL-990-Condenser-Microphone-with-Shockmount-770693-i1126975.gc and this interface http://www.guitarcenter.com/M-Audio-Fast-Track-MKII-USB-Audio-Interface-105632467-i1474272.gc but a lot will depend on your computer's capabilities and operating system. Whatever you buy, make sure that your computer meets the minimum specs for the device. That MXL mic is one lots of us here use, and while it wasn't listed on GCs web site, there may still be some MXL 990/991 sets available. They were $80 last month, and has a vocal mic (990) and instrument mic (991). That's the set I have. You will need phantom power to use these mics, and the Fast Track audio interface has that. Beagle, what was it you wrote about M-Audio not updating drivers (or something like that) which caused you to not recommend them anymore? Your USB mic may be sampling at a different rate than MC. Read what sampling rate MC uses at the bottom of the MC screen. Then see what sampling rate your USB mic uses. I'm not sure how to check that. Make sure you're using MME Driver Mode in MC, 'Options>Audio>Driver Mode'.
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Re:Cakewalk Music Creator LE
2009/12/28 11:50:24
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