I for one absolutely want to see Sonar on the Mac.

Purely because to obtain my degree I'm forced to use Logic, and I
personally feel if Sonar were a complete and stable option for Mac
'pro' studios would adopt it as 'industry standard' and thus negate the
need for me to become a Logic power user. phew!

It seems alittle unfair to HAVE to use Logic when I'm so proficiant with Sonar.

So for me it's purley selfish lol

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2048445

As far as OSX vs Windows........sigh - gets a little tedious really doesn't it?

Afterall as Kraymon so acurately put it - 'Choice is a fine thing'

Amen to that!

Eratu's and Pjl's posts are the best in this whole thread.  Thanks guys, it was a pleasure reading them.

I personally agree with everyone else who has an open mind about choice.  Sonar on Mac FTW!


[I bet most of use don't like just white women.....jajaja.  OK, bad joke :-P  Carry on everyone :-)]

....and so it begins.......again! lol

garrigus

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I still have my amstrad 1512 dos and gem windows. 64 mb of memory and my upgraded hard drive of 250mb what a monster at the time.
Still working. Now I need a cakewalk to run on it. Can I upgrade it? lol

chilldanny


Gothic Angel,
 
It was my choice to join your thread.
 
Hahaha!

Bless =)

... yep, friend.... enjoy....

Mac's are just standardized PC's built to meet certain criteria, they're both made from the same parts more or less... with a pretty exterior and a different OS.

I'm by no means a DAW jumper, I couldn't afford nor would I want to switch DAW's everytime one DAW had an up on another. 

I'm a happy Sonar user, but of course I expect improvements and progress as does everyone else. I'm a happy Windows 7 64 bit user, I'm more annoyed at 3rd party companies who couldn't be bothered to or aren't competent enough to develop good drivers and software. 

At this point I think we all agree that our computers, regardless of their OS's or if they're a PC or MAC are way ahead of the software, it's up to software developers to catch up and reach their potential..

To me it doesn't make sense to port Sonar over to MAC... Mac has ProTools, Logic, and Cubase? (not sure), there are lots of good DAWs that work on a MAC, and there are good DAWs that work on a PC. To me it doesn't make sense to waste time and resources to make Sonar available to Mac users.. that same time and resources could be used to push Sonar further ahead and continue to push the envelope and fix things that are broken. 

I don't care what is industry standard or not, all major DAWs do the same thing, and you could make the same music on any of them (with the right 3rd party hardware and software) 

Fix Sonar and improve Sonar, once everything is fixed and there is nothing more to fix or improve then port it over to Mac... so you're porting over something awesome! 

Yes most of what is posted here is opinion, 

And here is mine: 

I don't like Mac's, I tried to be more or less objective and impartial above but to do that 100% unbiased is impossible for anyone. 

I'm not going to list all the reasons explaining what I don't like about them 
But I am happy with my PC laptop, it has more juice than most Macs or PC's... 

gothic.angel

info@tomflair.com

 

...no one having a mac is restricted to osx - on a mac you can install any windows you want natively (and legally) AND you can run any windows virtually within osx... 
 ....

...exactly (...) on a Mac you are so resctricted  that you'll have to install Windows, in order to enjoy the world out of Apple's cage....!
 
Thanks for kind involuntary agreement...  
 
all the best

LOL - if you want to see it like that - then its ok for me ;-)
btw. have you ever been a logic user? (i have worked with it for 7 years and now i have been working with sonar for 4-5 years...id see no need to emtionalize one or the other app - but in terms of being spontaneous to use and easy even logic 5.5 (10 years old) is better than sonar - but on the other hand sonar has much deeper features - so its a matter of what suits the workflow best...

info@tomflair.com

 

LOL - if you want to see it like that - then its ok for me ;-)
btw. have you ever been a logic user? (i have worked with it for 7 years and now i have been working with sonar for 4-5 years...id see no need to emtionalize one or the other app - but in terms of being spontaneous to use and easy even logic 5.5 (10 years old) is better than sonar - but on the other hand sonar has much deeper features - so its a matter of what suits the workflow best...

Tom, I've been a long time emagic Logic user, which i loved, up to Logic Pro v8, which I honestly found very unstable and poor in terms of resources handling, quite disappointing... especially considering it should have worked fine on Apple's own OS, at least...
 
I personally find that those "much deeper features" in SONAR are worth the choice of it...
I'm working on Win7/64bit, so let me tell you it's something Apple will never reach, 'cos I know what I'm saying...
 
...anyway, you are absolutely right when you say "its a matter of what suits the workflow best..." , it couldn't be otherwise... 
 
 
Respectful, GothicAngel

If I can choose any OS platform and all other 3part SOFTWARE manufacture would follow and 100% support it as well like Spectrasonics, East-West and Native Instruments and so on...I would probably choose---> LINUX and KDE.
Next would be Microsoft Windows as I use today and last OS would be OSX.


This is just a Utopia because this with LINUX will never happen..

+1 on making SONAR NOT support OSX Apple.
Its much better Cakewalk put all their time on making SONAR work perfect on Windows instead, the platform that the majority of all people in the world use.



Its all about politic...

If apple start support LOGIC on Windows then...maybe...then..., they can start on thinking making it work on OSX as well. Don't forget SONAR is the "LOGIC" on Windows platform working closely with INTEL and Microsoft. If you are on Windows platform you strongly benefits using SONAR DAW compare to other DAW:s on Windows platform. That's why it work so great, x64bit, bitbridge and etc...with the embedded Microsoft & Intel codes inside the DAW-core program...   
 

Best Regards
Freddie

dream on freddy ;-) sonar surely is NOT the "logic of windows"
among "pofessionals" protools and cubase or nuendo and even reason or ableton live  are much more used - trust me!
but why give a damn about it? i dunno... i cant undesrtand why people have this strong need to postualte that "what i use is the best" ...

Crg


So tell me, please. Is this arguement about OS's or DAW hosts?

Yes. 

Then it must be about software-hardware integration and the ongoing discrepancy between signal-information-format-conversion of such and compatibility of language and instruction.

Freddie H


+1 on making SONAR NOT support OSX Apple.
Its much better Cakewalk put all their time on making SONAR work perfect on Windows instead, the platform that the majority of all people in the world use. 


If apple start support LOGIC on Windows then...maybe...then..., they can start on thinking making it work on OSX as well. Don't forget SONAR is the "LOGIC" on Windows platform working closely with INTEL and Microsoft. If you are on Windows platform you strongly benefits using SONAR DAW compare to other DAW:s on Windows platform. That's why it work so great, x64bit, bitbridge and etc...with the embedded Microsoft & Intel codes inside the DAW-core program...   


Best Regards
Freddie

....As I started the thread, my dear Ladies and Lads, I  quote the above words to put things where I made them start from...
It was and it is just that simple...  

Here is WHY to use SONAR and why it will probably soon take over the Audio and Music industry standard.  (with REAPER)

http://www.cakewalk.com/p...AR/?L=1&Prod=SR8.5



Yes perhaps you laugh now...but you will see that I'm right in the end. 
Great things will soon happen with SONAR platform. You can almost feel it!
Its just matter of time....perhaps already in the next SONAR version (SONAR, 9, 10) or next after that we will see 128bit BEAT-version that will support the next WINDOWS 8, 128bit that will come out 2012-2014.

As you all already know, many other DAW:s like Pro Tools, LIVE, struggle today just to make a 64bit version that work. SONAR x64bit has already been in use official since 2005.

Pro tools 8 HD 32bit has today a NOTE------> 32bit BETA-version out trying to get it to work just on Windows 7 x64bit and that doesn't even work for them. 
Logic doesn't do any major progress either...going very slow even though they have a x64bit version out now. Nothing going on on that platform since apple bought Emagic over 10 years ago...


You will see, time will tell!

Freddie H


Here is WHY to use SONAR and why it will probably soon take over the Audio and Music industry standard.  (with REAPER)

http://www.cakewalk.com/products/SONAR/?L=1&Prod=SR8.5



Yes perhaps you laugh now...but you will see that I'm right in the end. 
Great things will soon happen with SONAR platform. You can almost feel it!
Its just matter of time....perhaps already in the next SONAR version (SONAR, 9, 10) or next after that we will see 128bit BEAT-version that will support the next WINDOWS 8, 128bit that will come out 2012-2014.

As you all already know, many other DAW:s like Pro Tools, LIVE, struggle today just to make a 64bit version that work. SONAR x64bit has already been in use official since 2005.

Pro tools 8 HD 32bit has today a NOTE------> 32bit BETA-version out trying to get it to work just on Windows 7 x64bit and that doesn't even work for them. 
Logic doesn't do any major progress either...going very slow even though they have a x64bit version out now. Nothing going on on that platform since apple bought Emagic over 10 years ago...


You will see, time will tell!

may i AGAIN remind you that NO ONE of the listerners EVER CARES how a track was made: 32,64,128 bit os or mixengine ...your obsessive focus on technical specs is somehow weird.
insted of talking bits n´bytes talk music freddie...
btw. who also cares about "wonderful things happening in the future with sonar" ;-)
you should rate musical output by its success in terms of sales  and not by its "internal data"
 
and you know that a musician that is more talented as you are will probably already kick your butt (pardon) with an 8 track tape recorder even if you have sonar 10 256bit with an octocore-multy array  - never forget this ;-)
 
thanks