Cakewalk Sound Center NOT showing up

Here's what I did:

1) Installed MC5 from Factory Disk
2) Registered MC5

Cakewalk Sound Center (CSS) does NOT show on the list, when I click ADD TRACK-> INSTRUMENT TRACK, or INSERT SOFT SYNTH(in Loop Explorer View)
I checked, and it HAS been installed in my Programs/VST folder, and the Programs/Cakewalk folder.
I also was able to run CSS in a separate VST Host program I have, with no problem.

3) Ran "Music_Creator_5.0.5.exe" Update (70.5 MB)
Then opened MC5 and checked version, which was now 5.0.5.6
4) Registered AmpliTube plug-in
5) Added (copy and replace) "Music Creator 505 Project Templates" (2.12 MB)
6) Not sure where I got this file (can't find the link anymore), but I next ran "Cakewalk Sound Center Patch.exe" (v1.1.0)    (19.1 MB)
Was this a mistake?

CSS still does NOT show up.

I found one more file I had downloaded a few weeks ago(but can't find the link?), called "MC505Patch.exe" (51.3 MB)
Should I install this?

I had the SAME problem, with CSS not showing up, when I had installed MC5LE.
I had completely uninstalled MC5LE, before installing MC5.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

Look around in the Cakewalk folder and in the Program Files folder... can you find the Cakewalk Sound Center folder? Did it actually get installed?  

I'm guessing it did but it's not in a "default" location where MC is looking for it.  Simply find where it is located and then go to the PLUG IN MANAGER and add it to the VST list, then run a manual scan. 


No need to move the folder, BUT, you can cut & copy or drag it to the Cakewalk VST folder and run the scan. 

Firstly, I thank you all for your help.

Gregy,
I ran the "Cakewalk Sound Center Patch.exe" (v1.1.0)    (19.1 MB)
update.  Unfortunately, CSC is still not in the list.

Yes, I do have:
Insert->Insert from Track Template->Instruments->Bass, Brass,........Percussion,Woodwinds

Some Instruments loaded a TTS-1 track, and some loaded a Cakewalk Sound Center (CSC) track.  I didn't try every Instrument yet, but the ones I found that load CSC, are:
Drums - Acoustic Kick and Snare, Stereo Cymbals
Woodwinds - Fairy Tale Flute, Pan Flute,
Percussion - Congas, Rain Stick
Pads - Analog Sweep, Blade Combo, Psaltry Harp Bowed

HOWEVER, TWO wierd things happen:
1) these Instruments that load a CSS track, ALL always FIRST give this message, BEFORE loading:
"IDS_GENERIC_ERROR not found in text resource file!"
with a LOUD DING sound (very annoying)
2) the Instrument PRESET is NOT loaded.  You have to
manually select the Preset you want in the CSC icon.

You must ALSO remember, that if you go over the MC5 plugin limit, to Delete some synths in the "Preview Synth" window of the Loop Explorer View, or you will get this message:
"Loading Track Template would have exceeded Music Creator limits.
Load failed."  


Guitarhacker,
It appears CSC has been installed.  Here are the locations:

C:/Program Files/Cakewalk/Cakewalk Sound Center (contains unins00.dat, unins000.exe, unins001.dat, unins001.exe, and Documentation folder)

C:/Program Files/Vstplugins/Cakewalk Sound Center (contains CSC.dll v1.1.0.12, and Documentation, Modules, and Resources folders)   I also ran this CSC.dll in another host, and it worked.

C:/Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data/Cakewalk/Cakewalk Sound Center(contains Midi Learn and Programs folders)

Yes, the workaround works, but is VERY annoying because
of the Loud sound when the "IDS_GENERIC_ERROR..." message appears.  Plus, you have to manual select the preset after it loads.
If I have to, I can live with the Preset issue, but NOT the "IDS...." DING sound.

Can't Cakewalk fix this bug? or have they given up and moved on to MC6?

If you turn off Microsoft System Sounds (recommended for all users) you won't (shouldn't) hear that ding.
I assume your OS is 32-bit?
 

57Gregy


If you turn off Microsoft System Sounds (recommended for all users) you won't (shouldn't) hear that ding.
I assume your OS is 32-bit?
 

Thanks, I'll look into that.  Yes, 32 bit XP.

MC54PC


Yes, the workaround works, but is VERY annoying because
of the Loud sound when the "IDS_GENERIC_ERROR..." message appears.  Plus, you have to manual select the preset after it loads.
If I have to, I can live with the Preset issue, but NOT the "IDS...." DING sound.

Can't Cakewalk fix this bug? or have they given up and moved on to MC6?

well, it's not really a "bug."  it should not be giving you the IDS_GENERIC_ERROR, but that's not a bug because it doesn't happen to everyone else - it's something wrong with the installation of CSC on your particular system.  the preset issue is probably due to the "IDS GENERIC ERROR" also.  My guess is that if you get that fixed, the preset issue will be a non-issue.
 
at this point, my best advice to you would be to completely wipe out the installation of MC and CSC and start over.  but to completely wipe it out, you'd need to edit the registry and delete all references to Music Creator, Cakewalk and "Sound Center"
 
it might be best, however, before trying that, to contact tech support with your particular issue.  send them an email - you can't call tech support for MC, it's not supported - only email support.

Hi everyone,
 
I figured I would chime in here with some help regarding this known issue where users sometimes get the "IDS" error when loading Cakewalk Sound Center or when opening projects with Cakewalk Sound Center. We have a comprehensive KB article on our site that explains why this happens, and workarounds.
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007012921
 
I hope this information is helpful, and thanks for your continued support of Music Creator.
 
Cheers,

Samara Krugman


Hi everyone,
 
I figured I would chime in here with some help regarding this known issue where users sometimes get the "IDS" error when loading Cakewalk Sound Center or when opening projects with Cakewalk Sound Center. We have a comprehensive KB article on our site that explains why this happens, and workarounds.
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007012921
 
I hope this information is helpful, and thanks for your continued support of Music Creator.
 
Cheers,

Thank you very much for this information.
I followed everything step by step, but hit a snag at Step 5 (locate the name of the Program, at the upper right corner below the meters).  This is because my tracks do NOT load any Preset, so there is no name displayed.
Is there anything else I can do? or do you recommend a total Deinstall and Reinstall of MC5?

Samara Krugman


I suggest you email our technical support team before going through a full uninstall and reinstall.
 
Click here for email support
 
Cheers,

OMG!  Thank you so much.  IF ONLY I had waited another day for your response.
Two days ago, I COMPLETELY deinstalled MC5, after unintentionally
somehow losing some Cakewalk Pitch shifting plugins, and also
some random COMPLETE crashing of MC5.
I deinstalled, and tried to delete everything Cakewalk related.

I will reinstall, and let you know if everything works properly this time (fingers crossed).
AND definitely followup with your support department, when necessary.
Your Cakewalk support is superb!

If it's working I'd say no, if you have installed the update 5.0.5.6 and life is good, I'd let it roll. 

I know that the update 5.0.5.6 on my DAW added a number of new CSC sounds that were not there before. 

sounds like you're ready to rock!

You never want to use the "cheap internal AC97 soundcard" .... ASIO4ALL is a wrapper of sorts that fools the system into thinking it has an ASIO driver .... or something like that... the point is, it's fake. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. 

A better solution is to buy a decent soundcard/interface that is designed to do audio recording AND uses ASIO drivers. 

check my website for soundcard/interface recommendations.

Thanks guys.
OK, I have a Lexicon Alpha USB interface for my laptop.
I did extensive research and it was the best USB interface for $60 and under, considering quality and features (possibly still is?)
http://www.lexiconpro.com/product.php?id=7
Yes, the mic preamp isn't the best, but many times I am using more than one mic to record an acoustic instrument, so I'm using my mixer's preamps anyway.

(I was using the LE version of Cubase 4 that came with it.
Worked OK, but I hated Cubase. It simply cannot compare to the user friendliness and elegance of MC5.  Plus Cubase's staff view is just down right horrible.
MC5 is the PC's closest thing to Mac's garbage band.
I really don't know why Cakewalk never marketed it, as such.  That's how Mixcraft markets their program, and I've tried their demo, which was just too CPU hungry for my system. From what I could tell, MC5 still is superior
in user friendliness, plus it can host BOTH DX and VST, plus it's less expensive. A no brainer IMHO.)

I have the tower and laptop at different locations,
so plugging/unplugging the USB is not as big as issue, as
dragging along the mixer, and plugging into a different
amp system, taking along ac adapters, cables, etc.
Too much, for a lazy person like me.  LOL

The PCI is the M-Audio 2496. 
No complaints.  Possibly still the best PCI card for under $100.
Guitarhacker, I think I may take your advice and skip the combo mixer/audio interface; and reinstall the PCI card.

I am always striving for the BEST in the "cheapest price" category.