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2018/04/04 18:42:10 (permalink)

Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)?

Hi Everyone,
 
Please don't beat me up because the answer to my question is obvious to you, and not to be a troll, but:
 
Since the new Cakewalk by BandLab is essentially the same at SPLAT (which I have) sans two additional features and extra plugs, etc., will be have to pay for the next update/version since we are/were registered Cakewalk customers (now BandLab users/customers)?  That is, basically we are not really getting anything different from what many of us SPLAT users already have, so this isn't anything new or improved.  Hence the question. Unless, CWbBL will continually be free to everyone (which I am not sure of either, but thought I would throw it out there).
 
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/04 18:44:13 (permalink)
I'm sure the BandLab public announcements today would have alluded to such a thing if it were in the works.

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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/04 18:54:20 (permalink)
While the announcement say it is "free" and I guess there is not immediate intention to charge for it, there is one indication that can be changed in the future:

MEMBERSHIP:
04.10.2018

That is quite far from infinity...
 
Also I have failed to find EULA / License conditions.

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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/04 19:06:29 (permalink)
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While the announcement say it is "free" and I guess there is not immediate intention to charge for it, there is one indication that can be changed in the future:

MEMBERSHIP:
04.10.2018

That is quite far from infinity...
 
Also I have failed to find EULA / License conditions.





Meng already addressed this. It is just a place holder that will be removed in update :)

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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/04 19:43:40 (permalink)
Thanks, skipped that :)
 

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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/04 20:35:39 (permalink)
So you guys are confident that there will not be any charges for upcoming updates and the Cakewalk will be as free as BandLab itself?
 
Kind regards,
 
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/04 20:41:48 (permalink)
We can't possibly know. Since the program ships without any content and few plug-ins, they may be following the blades and razor model. If that is the case, the program will always be free. Even if that is the current model, it could change at any time.
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/04 20:41:49 (permalink)
We don't know yet how Bandlab will price Cakewalk DAW by Bandlab in the future.
Still pretty sweet deal for basically Sonar Platinum for free. We all have to wait and see
how this plays out.

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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/04 21:17:00 (permalink)
Fair enough.
 
Kind regards,
 
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/05 14:37:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/05 23:42:43
Platform and future product updates will continue to be free, just like BandLab - innovation must push forward!

But don't expect Rapture Pro for example to be free when it is re-released :-) (except for those that have bought it before in some way or form and have already created a BandLab account)
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/05 14:40:38 (permalink)
meng
Platform and future product updates will continue to be free, just like BandLab - innovation must push forward!

But don't expect Rapture Pro for example to be free when it is re-released :-) (except for those that have bought it before in some way or form and have already created a BandLab account)



What about the elements of SPlat which no longer feature in the core program? Will we get new installers which do not require SPlat to be present?

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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/05 14:48:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Daibhidh 2018/04/05 23:42:35
If you're referring to certain 3rd party content, unless we have a new deal with the manufacturer, that's unfortunately unlikely to be possible because legally Cakewalk by BandLab is a completely new product and we are a different publisher to Cakewalk Inc - we don't have the right to redistribute content we don't own...
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/05 14:56:10 (permalink)
Thank you.
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/05 15:39:01 (permalink)
meng
If you're referring to certain 3rd party content, unless we have a new deal with the manufacturer, that's unfortunately unlikely to be possible because legally Cakewalk by BandLab is a completely new product and we are a different publisher to Cakewalk Inc - we don't have the right to redistribute content we don't own...


Thanks Meng - I was hoping to do a completely fresh install using the BandLab installer then the separate installers from my Cakewalk account for the missing content. I appreciate the issue with 3rd party content, so I will just hold fire and keep SPlat running in the meantime alongside CbB.

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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/05 22:49:17 (permalink)
meng
Platform and future product updates will continue to be free, just like BandLab - innovation must push forward!

But don't expect Rapture Pro for example to be free when it is re-released :-) (except for those that have bought it before in some way or form and have already created a BandLab account)

That totally makes my day!  Thanks so much for the clarification, Meng.  It's nice to know that we can take a company literally and have the confidence to support its efforts.  Greatly appreciate!
 
Kind regards,
 
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/05 23:38:58 (permalink)
May I please ask if any of you read the remarks in About cakewalk in the Help section..It says Membership Valid through 10/4/2018??
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Re: Cakewalk by BandLab free but will next update/version cost us (SONAR users/customers)? 2018/04/06 00:06:12 (permalink)
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