Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now!

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2011/09/27 11:34:28 (permalink)

Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now!

I upgraded from 7PE to X1 and wow, this is the most difficult "upgrade" I've ever done. As many probably know there is no support for Dim Pro 1.2. That's a huge problem because I realize now a lot of the instances that I used Dim Pro was being used vis the DXI and not VST. SO now 7PE projects with dim pro have a "missing plugin."

Cakewalk support said to uninstall 1.5 and reinstall 1.2 and patch to 1.5. I did that and WOW, that couldn't have created any more problems. X1 would crash upon opening sometimes. Projects would crash when opening. So many glitches... So i reinstalled everything and Im back where I was... x1 is working with 1.5 and seems stable but I'm out of luck when it comes to old projects with Dim Pro 1.2.

How the hell is that going to work???

I have a rig with 7PE and 1.2 and a separate rig with X1 and 1.5. So my only option I guess is to keep the old rig and whenever I open a project with dim pro and it thinks its a missing plugin, I will reference my old rig, see what patch i used in 1.2 and open a new synth in 1.5 with that patch and save... that is crazy.

I was planning on selling my old rig for $4000, but now it needs to be used as a ridiculously overpriced reference machine.

Ugh!! Worst part is, I didn't use DIm Pro a lot. But used it on some great tracks that I know someone with buy and I'll have to mixdown and be screwed if I can't reference my old machine. And I don't know all the tracks I've used it on.

I thought maybe I can just leave 1.2 installed with X1 and not update to 1.5 but heard because it was unsupported, it was super buggy... any truth to that? I'm trying to avoid problems, not trying to cause them... CAKEWALK!
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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/27 11:48:02 (permalink)
    I thought maybe I can just leave 1.2 installed with X1 and not update to 1.5 but heard because it was unsupported, it was super buggy... any truth to that?


    Nope. No truth at all.

    I'm using 1.2 in X1 & 8.5 without a problem.

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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/27 12:08:32 (permalink)
    oh lol so I guess I could do that?

    Maybe I'll do that and use software to copy my harddrive exactly... that way if I ever run into trouble I can load it up on another computer... that way I'll still be able to sell my other rig.

    hmm


    Bristol, you really have no problems with X1 running dim pro 1.2? It runs perfectly... that may the be simply answer i was hoping for.
    post edited by SBPTraxx - 2011/09/27 13:20:26
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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/27 14:05:56 (permalink)
    SBPTraxx:

    I would recommend using version 1.5. One of the major problems with 1.2 is that users experienced a high pitched squeal noise when playing back certain Dim Pro patches, especially in projects using 96 kHz or higher sample rates. One patch that exhibits this issue for me is Ballad Piano.prog under Electric Pianos (using Dim Pro 1.2.) The issue is no longer experienced when using Dim Pro 1.5.

    So, here's another option you can choose:

    In your projects that used Dim Pro 1.2, you can delete the Dim Pro 1.2 synth instance, but keep the MIDI track associated with it, load an instance of the new Dim Pro 1.5, and select that new Dim Pro instance as the output for the MIDI track that was used for Dim Pro 1.2. After that, the thing left to do is find the correct patch you were using and save the project. Finding the correct patch is what can be the bugger if you choose to use this option.

    Anyway, goodluck.



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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/27 14:32:58 (permalink)
    Exactly, thats what I figured I would have to do. But I don't know how many projects I've used it on and which ones for that matter. That's why I figured I'd need to have the original project available on my other rig to reference so when i did pull up a project that had 1.2, I could find which patch was associated with it and manually add in 1.5 and set the output with the proper patch.




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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/28 05:43:08 (permalink)
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    I thought maybe I can just leave 1.2 installed with X1 and not update to 1.5 but heard because it was unsupported, it was super buggy... any truth to that?


    Nope. No truth at all.

    I'm using 1.2 in X1 & 8.5 without a problem.


    I read plenty people had problem installing 1.5 patch and had to reinstall DP alltogether and revert to 1.2.
    But maybe Cake fixed that installer thingy by now.

    So I don't agree "No truth at all".
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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/28 12:34:14 (permalink)
    Well, the cakewalk tech guy I've been talking to said to install 1.2 and patch to 1.5. When I said that caused a crash almost everytime I opened sonar he suggested what we've been talking about... loading the older projects in 1.5, refinding the patch and saving... what a problem solver ;)

    I'm weighing some options right now...

    1) Uninstall 1.5 and reinstall 1.2 and see if it's stable like you guys are saying it is. Sell my old rig.

    2) Don't sell my old rig and use it as an expensive computer to just reference old projects for instances of DIm Pro.

    3) Use a program to make on exact copy of my harddrive. VMware my personal mac and run windows and be able to bring up old projects if I need to reference the sounds. Sell my old rig.


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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/28 13:36:40 (permalink)
    what are the differences between versions 1.2 and 1.5? (other than dropping DXi, and changing the VSTID, iirc) - if you know what the diffs are, maybe you can live without them?

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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/28 16:28:40 (permalink)
    SBPT....

    simple solution there my friend. 

    When you open an old project with the old DimPro.... and it says missing plug in.....

    all you gotta do is load up the NEW DimPro plug in it's place.  Problem solved. 


    I have to do something similar many times when I am working on a project someone else sends me. Obviously, I don't have all the plugs other people may have, so if I want to hear someone's Ivory piano track so I can edit it, I simple load up MY piano synth and it plays perfectly. Just do the same thing with the missing DP plug. 

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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/29 01:37:49 (permalink)
    Right, but I can't open 1.2 to see what patch is loaded... 
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    SBPT....

    simple solution there my friend. 

    When you open an old project with the old DimPro.... and it says missing plug in.....

    all you gotta do is load up the NEW DimPro plug in it's place.  Problem solved. 


    I have to do something similar many times when I am working on a project someone else sends me. Obviously, I don't have all the plugs other people may have, so if I want to hear someone's Ivory piano track so I can edit it, I simple load up MY piano synth and it plays perfectly. Just do the same thing with the missing DP plug. 


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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/29 08:19:09 (permalink)
    If memory fails.... try a few patches or samples. I've done that and actually liked the new sample sound better in a few cases. Another thing that might be helpful going forward. I know of several people here who use a notebook to take meticulous notes on settings, patches, amps, guitars, and all sorts of details. It helps when they have to go back to a project from a few years back.

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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/29 09:00:58 (permalink)
    I went through this whole debacle as well. Ended up starting over and re-installing everything except Dimpro 1.5. (stayed at 1.2). 

    Herb, that is not a simple solution. I might agree that sometimes starting over and finding a different patch might be an option. But, That should be my choice. The 1.5 patch should patch correctly or at least make it known that previous projects will not load your patches. Huge oversight IMO.

    As the OP stated, my only option is to refer to the old machine/installation for patch information. That's ridiculous.

    It's these type of annoyances that keep me from X1. 

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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/29 10:14:07 (permalink)
    Install 7 on the new computer. Over time, load the old projects, make note of the patch, replace Dim, open patch, save-as project to NEW name, open in X1.

    Before sellling the other computer make sure to uninstall ALL Cakewalk software. And any other software that you have/will install on the new computer that requires a licence.

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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/29 11:05:51 (permalink)
    Guitarhacker: I appreciate the input but taking notes is not something I'd be interested in doing at all. I have hundreds of projects using several upon several vst's. SOmething like that would be completely out of the question.

    Timidi, Thanks for the response. I see you know exactly what I'm talking about. How they managed to screw that up, I'll never know. It looks like I'll have to bite the bullet and install 1.2 and hang onto my old system for awhile just to make sure I don't run into any bugs.

    jm, Definitely. I'll be using acronis to make the machine default to it's status when I first purchased it and nothing was installed on it.
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    Re:Cakewalk couldn't be making my life more difficult right now! 2011/09/29 11:48:28 (permalink)
    I have S4, S7, and S8 all installed, on w7 32 bit partition, and 64 bit.

    And: I have an XP boot, on the same machine, that has projects that use VSC. As needed I boot XP and change the VSC to TTL, save-as, and then open in w7.

    REQUIRED before old machine leaves::::: if you have not already: use the plugin manager to SAVE ALL PRESETS for each used plugin. And transfer the presets to the new machine. A simple but boring process that is absolutely required for reducing short words said way loud.


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