Can I get a Moog or other vintage prog style sounds on X3?

Maybe the Muz3um presets would be of interest. They are available in the downloads section of patcharena. The Muz3um presets were originally developed for z3ta+, then Rapture and z3ta+2.

z3ta+ should have a quite a few presets that would get you there, if it's presets you're looking for e.g.  Vangelis, In The Air Tonight (that great Prophet 5 pad), some of the Mogger  should be a clue that they're not all techno..
 
Rapture has loads, - I love the "Component Modelling" Moog preset in the "Leads" folder.  The Muz3um sounds which are available somewhere on the web for Rapture have loads of tasty analogue synths, including the Arp stuff that Tony Banks used in the seventies.
 
Dimension Pro also has a lot.  There are great Moogs and Melotrons, you name it.  Sounds from the Emu Classic Keys module, Vintage Sound Library etc.

If I need some help getting these existing sounds to work i'll post again. thanks. 
 
I have used one prophet sound from z3ta so far (bank 1 I think).
 

Another synth just finishing testing is Obdx. Not bad for free. The presets are not yet bundled with the synth. The latest snapshot of the presets are on page 87 of the thread. Currently the presets are at this address https://dl.dropboxusercon...k%201%20-%20v1.04.zip.

I second #2.


Also you need to look at Z3TA+2 again (if you haven't got version 2 get it). Please do not view this beast as a sampler with lots of presets for you to shop around with, it isn't, it is virtual synth (with lot's of presets), check:
http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/tech/cakewalk-z3ta-2-490547
 
So if you are just dialling up the preset sounds you are totally missing out with what this thing can do, if you want Moog sounds it's best you understand how to generate Moog like sounds like your 70's prog rock hero's did, I strongly recommend this tutorial:
http://www.groove3.com/str/z3ta-explained.html


Please don't just jump from plugin to plugin blindfolded, or buy sound expansion upon sound expansion, and piss your money up the wall; set yourself free and learn to use your tool the way it was originally intended. Spend a whole day learning your synth inside out, Keith Emerson will applaud you and you will end up having a lifetime skill.... You will also be a lot clearer about what sort of synth you will want to be playing with next (many plugins work in similar ways, check out Absynth or Massive for instance). 
 
Cheers....
 
p.s. Still unsure, OK check out this free video to see what I mean:
http://www.groove3.com/str/player_flash.php?id=4085&productid=16413
 

There are a couple of freeware soft synths that have some pretty good sounds.
 
There are a couple of drawbacks though - please note that even with the couple of drawbacks, I still chose to use them until literally just yesterday.
 
PLEASE NOTE -both the MinimoogVA and the ARP2600VA are 32-bit, so they must either be used in a 32-bit Sonar, or with BitBridge/JBridge in a 64-bit Sonar.
 
They do have great sounds, though, and since they are free, I recommend you take a look at them - download and listen.  They both work well with ASIO from your interface, so the sound quality is good, on top of which they are really good free creations of a Minimoog and an ARP200.
 
I JUST literally purchased the Arturia V Collection - which is an INCREDIBLE collection of 64-bit classic synths - 9 synths and 30 drum machines - It was on sale for $199 for all of these, and the regular price is back up to its normal $399 - here is the link to what is included, in case you want to look at these someday, particularly if they go on sale again: 
 
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/v-collection/details.html
 
Here are links to the MinimogueVA and the ARP2600VA, which you can get now for free:
 
MinimogueVA:  http://home.no/gunnare/downloads.htm
 
ARP2600VA: http://glenstegner.com/softsynths.html
 
By the way, if you ever pick up a synth called FM 8. from Native Instruments, either by itself or as part of one of their Komplete bundles, send me a Private Message with your email address, and I will cheerfully send you LITERALLY tens of thousands of presets for FM 8, that represent LITERALLY every single factory sound EVER released by Yamaha for any of the DX-type synths, such as DX7, DX8, DX100, DX1, DX5, DX21, GS1, GS2, TX-series, etc.
 
These sounds are amazing enough on their own, but unlike the limitations the originals had, you can add all kinds of effects to each sound, resulting in lush, authentic digital pianos, and all of those unique sounds.  I posted a thread some months ago, offering to email all of the DX presets to whoever wanted them, and I did end up sending them all to 6-7 different folks.
 
Also, Native Instruments offers a couple of free synths - they call them 'Players', including a great-sounding "taster" synth that allow you to play a  small number of representative sounds from their flagship Kontakt synth.  They hope you love the sound quality enough to purchase the real Kontakt, which IS the gold standard Sampler.  
 
The other one 'plays' a representative number of presets from another incredible synth of theirs, Reaktor 5.  That synth allows you to assemble synths from 'building block components' of all of the different kinds of synthesis out there, so you can combine FM, additive, subtractive, etc types of synths, into a brand new kind of synth.  
 
There are thousands of free synths that folks have built with this synth 'factory'.
 
Here are links to these two free synthesizers, Kontakt 5 Player and Reaktor 5 Player:
 
Kontakt 5 Player: http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/synths-samplers/kontakt-5-player/free-download/
 
Reaktor 5 Player: http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/synths-samplers/reaktor-5-player/
 
I hope you enjoy the free stuff.  The other Sonar-included synths may grow on you, in time, as well.
 
Bob Bone
 

I have a friend who has tons of real moog gear.
 
He would never use plugins of any sort. Smiles.
 
These don't come with Sonar, but might get you close.
http://www.moogmusic.com/products/apps/
 

Rapture is as good of a synth for that stuff that you can find - short of the real things.  You can find it (and the Z3TAs) at Patchareana.com. Rapture w/  Muz3um is great.  Francesco sampled just about everything analog and made patches from them.  Very Impressive.
 
Some VA's may be "rounder" than Rapture (or DimPro), but it cuts like a laser.  Muz3um is free, you should have rapture w/ SONAR and it is 64-bit.  Try it, and if it don't float your boat then spend money.
 
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Even the lowly PSYN II has a few usable vintage patches. Gotta be one of the least mentioned synths bundled with SONAR. Rapture is still my favorite of the CW line.

Jeff Evans
I got the MiniMoog Tribute from Craig Anderton for Rapture and it is a ripper. It is on special right now too. Full of great Moog sounds. Some fantastic sequences too. Love it Craig!
 
http://www.store.cakewalk...ductid=10-CPMM1.00-10E

Well thanks, that means a lot coming from you! I now you're pretty picky about sounds.

I happen to use Z3ta+ 2.1 for old "moog" type sounds (using vintage wave shapes - the default start-up patch is a good example). They seem to be good for both the top end and the bottom.
 
regards
Dave
X3d Producer on Windows 7/64.

FYI - When I reviewed Rapture many years ago, I posted an online example of a Rapture 4-pole LP filter sweep and the same from Arturia's Minimoog emulation. No one could tell the difference.
 
Remember, these are synthesizers...you can make them do pretty much anything you want. Give me something with more than one sawtooth oscillator and a 4-pole filter, and I can probably make it sound like a Minimoog   Also remember part of the Minimoog "sound" involved the envelopes, which had distinctive shapes quite different from today's common rate/level envelopes.

CakeAlexS
> I posted an online example of a Rapture 4-pole LP filter sweep and the same from Arturia's Minimoog emulation
 
Hmmm maybe it's time to try that test again with these synths, Monark and the real instrument? :).
 
I agree though, a lot of virtual synths are (basically) the same, it's the way the UI is handled, and how it is initially calibrated is what makes the synth for me. Some synths are unique though like FM.

I thought it fair to compare virtual instrument to virtual instrument. I actually liked Creamware's "Minimoog" better in some ways, but it sounded less like a hardware Minimoog (I have one, signed by Bob Moog when he came over to visit ).
 
But what everyone seems to forget is that no listener has ever said "I was going to buy your CD, but...that wasn't a real Minimoog, it was a software emulation."

What Jeff has here is a perfect example. In my view there are many synths capable of these sort of sounds and sound just as good. Morark may sound better IMHO, however the demos's are pretty impressive.
 
The point is moot however, what makes a synth is:
 
1) Good presets.
2) A UI the user likes and is comfortable with.
3) A UI that allows great sounds to be created quickly.
4) Maybe something they are already familiar with.
 
So this Oberheim clone ticks all the right boxes.
 
Most people tend to look at 1 rather than 3 more, many only use presets which in my view should be a crime.
 
There are lots of opinions out there, but really all people are banging on about is when to add the milk to their tea (that's if they add milk at all). They all (more or less) sound the same nowadays, with a few notable exceptions.

CakeAlexS
many only use presets which in my view should be a crime.
 

This is a common view, for which I have some sympathy.

However, in the seventies, Tony Banks used an ARP ProSoloist for that classic Genesis sound.

It was a preset synth.

I also have a 150 year old Grand Piano that only has one preset sound.