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2016/10/17 16:12:48 (permalink)

Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ?

Hi, i'm looking for the previous version of Z3ta+ and I couldn't find it. Can I buy it anywhere? 
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/17 16:16:18 (permalink)
The original version of z3ta+ has not been sold separately for years. It is bundled with SONAR Professional and Platinum.
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/17 16:17:56 (permalink)
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The original version of z3ta+ has not been sold separately for years. It is bundled with SONAR Professional and Platinum.


But you can buy z3ta+2 separately, either you already have Sonar or not
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/17 16:19:13 (permalink)
Oh sry sry man, I read wrong (English isn't my native language)
 
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/17 16:23:24 (permalink)
Yes, when Cakewalk release z3ta+2, they stopped selling the original version. Since then, the only way to get the original version of z3ta+ is by purchasing a version of SONAR which includes the synth. IIRC, z3ta+ was also given away with a magazine for a limited time a few years ago.
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/17 16:28:01 (permalink)
And if I buy SONAR Platinum, for example, it comes with z3ta+ 1 or 2? I mean, is there any option to get nowadays the first version?
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/17 16:32:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2016/10/29 10:43:06
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 ...is there any option to get nowadays the first version?

Yes, both SONAR Professional and Platinum include the original version of z3ta+.
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/17 16:34:09 (permalink)
Ah ok, Thank you
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/25 11:22:54 (permalink)
Why do you want the original? Just asking cause compared to Z3TA+2 the sound quality of the original Z3TA+ is really not great

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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/10/29 09:27:07 (permalink)
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... compared to Z3TA+2 the sound quality of the original Z3TA+ is really not great



That was one line they marketed Z3TA 2 with, when it came out. It is absolutely not true!
 
I opened presets from the z3ta Classic installation sound bank in both versions. They sound absolutely the same.
 
I also designed couple of new presets from scratch in both synths using the same "recipe" and again, same sound.
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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/11/03 12:05:55 (permalink)
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... compared to Z3TA+2 the sound quality of the original Z3TA+ is really not great



That was one line they marketed Z3TA 2 with, when it came out. It is absolutely not true!
 
I opened presets from the z3ta Classic installation sound bank in both versions. They sound absolutely the same.
 
I also designed couple of new presets from scratch in both synths using the same "recipe" and again, same sound.




Interesting, I did do a side by side comparison when I first got Z3TA+2 (and it's been quite a while since then) and for whatever reason at the time they did sound different to me, the original Z3TA+ sounded kind of muffled to me compared to Z3TA+2, however going back to try another comparison after your message I don't hear that difference I thought I remembered hearing the first time. 
 
Although I do rely heavily on presets and I have found enough of a benefit with the added availability of expansions in Z3TA+2, mostly cause when Z3TA+2 first came out a few of them were thrown in as a bonus

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Re: Can I get the first version of Z3ta+ ? 2016/11/03 12:19:33 (permalink)
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Interesting, I did do a side by side comparison when I first got Z3TA+2 (and it's been quite a while since then) and for whatever reason at the time they did sound different to me, the original Z3TA+ sounded kind of muffled to me compared to Z3TA+2, however going back to try another comparison after your message I don't hear that difference I thought I remembered hearing the first time. 
 

 
Could this be due to the presense (or absence) of internal oversampling? It makes a pretty big difference with some patches.
 
As far as I can tell, their features are more or less the same. With Z3ta+2 you get a nicer interface. All you lose is the audio input, if you wanted to use Z3ta's FX on other audio. But I haven't heard anything there I couldn't replicate with other plugs. If you could use input as an oscillator/mod source, then it'd be something!
 
 
 

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