Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ?

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2017/10/24 20:45:22 (permalink)

Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ?

I've just bought Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 and have a question regarding keyswitch "notes". 
 
I like to work simultaneously in PRV and Staff views for inputting note data. When I add a keyswitch command "note" in the PRV it also appears in the Staff view of course. Is there any way of preventing it from appearing in the Staff view as well, as I find this very off-putting !
 
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    MFanning
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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/24 22:34:10 (permalink)
    Not sure there is a way to do that, but one thing you can do is set up two tracks feeding into the one keyswitch instrument.  One track for note entry the other to enter the keyswitch notes.  An easy way to do that would be to clone the instrument track before starting so you have two tacks for the same instrument.   One track for note entry, the other for keyswitch notes.  -M.F.
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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/25 10:37:22 (permalink)
    Thanks, Michael, I'll try that and see if that helps.
     
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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/25 11:44:36 (permalink)
    I have my keyswitch tracks in a separate track folder containing all tracks assigned to Garritan. All instrument tracks are in a separate track folder always kept right underneath the keyswitch folder.

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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/25 11:52:21 (permalink)
    Keyswitch timing is tricky. I try to get the keyswitch as close as possible to the note where the change occurs. Sometimes this can be very finicky but if you spend some time you will get it.

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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/25 14:29:33 (permalink)
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    Not sure there is a way to do that, but one thing you can do is set up two tracks feeding into the one keyswitch instrument.  One track for note entry the other to enter the keyswitch notes.  An easy way to do that would be to clone the instrument track before starting so you have two tacks for the same instrument.   One track for note entry, the other for keyswitch notes.  -M.F.


    This is pretty much what I do.
    If you have both MIDI tracks highlighted in the PRV, you can see the "faded" keyswitches when you're working on the notes, or vice versa.  Or you can only highlight the notes and focus on them.
     
    I've found it easiest to have them both on one MIDI track while I'm building the basic track, then clone it and delete the keyswitches from the "performance" track and the notes from the "keyswitch" track.  Then tweak them separately as needed.

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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/25 15:47:37 (permalink)
    All my keyswitches have dedicated drum maps. 
     
    This has the advantage of a) being totally clear exactly which note(s) you're working on and b) you can assign whatever name you want to each articulation.

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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/25 18:51:02 (permalink)
    Sidroe
    I have my keyswitch tracks in a separate track folder containing all tracks assigned to Garritan. All instrument tracks are in a separate track folder always kept right underneath the keyswitch folder.



    At the moment I'm writing something as a GPO trial so all tracks are using GPO. I like your idea for when I'm using a number of different VSTs. Thanks for the suggestion.
     
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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/25 18:54:08 (permalink)
    MFanning
    Not sure there is a way to do that, but one thing you can do is set up two tracks feeding into the one keyswitch instrument.  One track for note entry the other to enter the keyswitch notes.  An easy way to do that would be to clone the instrument track before starting so you have two tacks for the same instrument.   One track for note entry, the other for keyswitch notes.  -M.F.



    I've just tried your suggestion and it gives me the result I'm after !  Combined with Sidroe's folder suggestion, this could be a way forward.
     
    Bob
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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/26 15:22:13 (permalink)
    Bristol_Jonesey
    All my keyswitches have dedicated drum maps. 
     
    This has the advantage of a) being totally clear exactly which note(s) you're working on and b) you can assign whatever name you want to each articulation.




    I've now tried this this as well. Another solution that works; I like being able to see the articulation name alongside the note input grid.
     
    Spoilt for choice, thanks, guys.
     
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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/29 16:55:53 (permalink)
    Slugbaby
     
    This is pretty much what I do.
    If you have both MIDI tracks highlighted in the PRV, you can see the "faded" keyswitches when you're working on the notes, or vice versa.  Or you can only highlight the notes and focus on them.
     
    I've found it easiest to have them both on one MIDI track while I'm building the basic track, then clone it and delete the keyswitches from the "performance" track and the notes from the "keyswitch" track.  Then tweak them separately as needed.


    I always learn something new from this forum!  Thanks Slugbaby for sharing your approach to entering keyswithces.  I normally do the same thing, enter keyswitch notes on the one track I am entering notes on.   Someday, I might need to prepare one of my Sonar compositions without the keyswitch notes on the staff to mess up the print out or export to Sibelius.  Cool!  Also, I like Sidroe's suggestion about using track folders. 
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    Re: Can I hide Keyswitch "notes" in Staff View ? 2017/10/29 16:57:54 (permalink)
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    MFanning
    Not sure there is a way to do that, but one thing you can do is set up two tracks feeding into the one keyswitch instrument.  One track for note entry the other to enter the keyswitch notes.  An easy way to do that would be to clone the instrument track before starting so you have two tacks for the same instrument.   One track for note entry, the other for keyswitch notes.  -M.F.



    I've just tried your suggestion and it gives me the result I'm after !  Combined with Sidroe's folder suggestion, this could be a way forward.
     
    Bob


    I'm glad we were able to help!
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