Can I sell Sonar 8.0/8.5 Producer retail box version after X1 purchase

You cannot sell or give away any version of Sonar once you've installed it and accepted the license agreement. You do not own Sonar, you only own a license to use it that is non-transferable. That is the law in the US. The UK may be different. 

To be fair. I would think if you uninstall 8.5 and install  a NEW x1, not an upgrade, then you should be able to sell the 8.5. John

Absolutely not. Read the End-User License Agreement that you agreed to abide by when you installed the product. 

Beagle

John6528


To be fair. I would think if you uninstall 8.5 and install  a NEW x1, not an upgrade, then you should be able to sell the 8.5.
John

sorry, but that's not correct advice.  yours and the OP's purchase of sonar are final.  you/he agreed to the terms of the EULA when you installed it and it specifically states that you cannot sell it or transfer it.

Oh c'mon... no one reads those EULA's. If they are small print and over 3/4 page long a good lawyer can get it tossed in 10 seconds. I never even glanced at the EULA other than to check the thingy that said I agreed to it... I'll bet 99% of buyers are the same. The only thing those long obtuse EULA's are good for is making money for attorneys.   IMHO

Anyway... I didn't state it as advice, just an idea on how it should be.

John

Non-transferability of user licences is Cakewalk's policy, but not all software companies are the same.  I sold my copy of Propellerhead Reason 4 last year and the sale was perfectly legitimate.  The buyer is now the registed user and I am no longer registered.  Transferring the licence was easy and straightforward using a facility provided on Propellerhead's website.  Cakewalk could provide this too if they wished and I believe that it would benefit them to do so.

You cannot sell it--please send it to me with serial number info etc.

You can't give it away either. What part of "non-transferable" don't you get? 

John6528

Beagle

John6528


To be fair. I would think if you uninstall 8.5 and install  a NEW x1, not an upgrade, then you should be able to sell the 8.5.
John

sorry, but that's not correct advice.  yours and the OP's purchase of sonar are final.  you/he agreed to the terms of the EULA when you installed it and it specifically states that you cannot sell it or transfer it.

Oh c'mon... no one reads those EULA's. If they are small print and over 3/4 page long a good lawyer can get it tossed in 10 seconds. I never even glanced at the EULA other than to check the thingy that said I agreed to it... I'll bet 99% of buyers are the same. The only thing those long obtuse EULA's are good for is making money for attorneys.   IMHO

Anyway... I didn't state it as advice, just an idea on how it should be.

John

Oh c'mon yourself!  if you don't read the EULA that's not an excuse to ignore it's policies.  you still checked the box saying you DID read it, so that means you have no integrity if you don't really agree to it but checked the box saying you do!
 
I'm not arguing how it "should" be.  I'm stating how it is.  cakewalk licensing is non transferrable and you agreed to that when you installed the software.
 
kev is right that not all software is like that, but my point is that cakewalk IS like that whether you agree with the policy or not.

talking to my father in law last night and i had brought up someone was asking about reselling sonar..he is a lawyer(criminal so this isnt really his specialty).
but he did make mention to the fact it is a fightable case...when clicking the box youve already bought the item.the techenacality is in the purchase..one should be notified apon payment..meaning you need to have a the clerk at the store make you sign a piece of paper stating you will not re-sell..bla..bla..bla..at the time of handing the money for payment.
i dont understand that.but he said its a very aurguable case at hand...all i know is i have my sonars..lol.and in order to play fair...those are the rules..ill play by them.
like i said my f.i.l. is a criminal lawyer so he could be just talking mush,mush.

Jason the big problem is you only technically have purchased Sonar once. You therefore only have one license etc. I now see the reason they have what I have considered a stupid policy but in your case it makes perfect sense and I now see the reason for it's existence. Upgrades are either free or at a reduced cost. You original box is your only legit copy, your only 100% purchase. Selling it ( illegally or ? ) would be wrong as you then have cheated the system.

So...I won't sell it then LOL..

I want to be fair to Cakewalk,they have and still do, continue to serve me well.
I genuinely needed to know if I was able to sell it legally. As I can't, I will stick it on a laptop for messing about with loops (hope I am allowed to do that).  

A lot of people here keep all the older versions installed just encase there's an old project you need to work on that will work better in the version it was created in. One of the best features of Cakewalk is you can always install it in another computer without fuss. Try that with Cubase, It took me 3 hours to retrieve my license from them after my  hard drive crashed.
Sonar was up and running in no time at all.
I even installed a copy of it on my office computer so I could help trouble shoot when on this forum. I don't use it for working as it has a realtech sound card and would just crash if I did.  

with each version there are specific things e.g. plugins that aren't on the new ones.. so yep some people keep older versions on simply because a plugin was a special to a version at a specific time.

I can understand all the extra work involved with license transfers etc. just I doubt I'm the only one that has multiple Dim Pro's .. so... I would rather even a charitable organisation benefited from.

You could sell it, but it will only work for 30 days.  Cakewalk needs to register it, and you are already the owner.  So it wouldn't let anyone else regsiter it, unless you give them your Cake ID, too.

You can keep it on the laptop or install X1 on it.  The licence sez you can use it on only one computer at a time.  I've had version of SONAr on 3 computers before, but my kids never used it on the hand-me-down computers.

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Best thing I ever done was switch from Vista 64 to Windows 7 64bit. Difference is night and day, my computer (especially more so Sonar) is so much more stable.

Hi,
I know this topic is some days old, but I'm still thinking Cakewalk could benefit when selling Sonar would be supported. With german company's, for example Steinberg (Cubase) and Magix (Samplitude), it is no problem. There you can delete registrations or whole accounts. For example with Magix, you have to pay normally 10 Euro's for deleting a product. After that you can sell it.

It's also a fact, that many people in germany don't buy Cakewalk Sonar, because they can't sell it -  and no one know's what the future will bring. So if you are in need to sell it to make some money, you don't have the chance to do. And finally a new user will also buy future updates, an old user working interim with another daw won't.
So maby Cakewalk should think about it and of course they can require a little payment for this service - like others also do. And a company being convinced of their products should not be so afraid, that too many people will change. I think it could be a chance to achieve more users, at least outside the USA.
Kind regards,
Timo

"Can I sell Sonar 8.0/8.5 Producer retail box version after X1 purchase" Nope. You can't legally do that with any software.