I'm no computer programmer BUT I would think implementing a "Reset Measure/Bar Number" should be fairly simple. Adobe Audition has it:



This affects only the Measure numbers of the Time Ruler. Actual SMPTE/Broadcast Wave time stamps remain in the realm of "Absolute" time regardless of what is perceived as measure 1:01:000.

Having said that, notation programs will still see the "count-in" measures [I do believe that the implementation of some sort of "offset" function for SMPTE time stamps to account for the "count-in" measures would either be asking for trouble or a major coding issue...Just my opinion because, as I said, I'm no computer programmer].

Anyway, the "workaround" I sometimes use when getting ready to prepare a score (or print individual parts in Sibelius) is to "Save As" a copy of the project as a MIDI file in the "Score" sub-folder of the project's parent folder (or individual MIDI files depending on what I'm actually working on) and simply slide everything over to the approriate starting point so that Measure "1" is actually the beginning of the song--If there are "pickup notes" leading into a "downbeat of the first full measure they are STILL a part of Measure "1", the measure just includes some "rests" before the song begins with the pickup notes. Yes, it's an "extra" step but it's a relatively minor issue to deal with when I'm truly concerned with accurate measure/bar numbers.

Just my 2¢ worth.

ORIGINAL: papa2004

I'm no computer programmer BUT I would think implementing a "Reset Measure/Bar Number" should be fairly simple. Adobe Audition has it:

I'm not a programmer either, but I agree it seems it should be a fairly simple calculation, a couple of fields and a couple of buttons. Reaper handles it similarly, but it lets you set the start measure and the start time independent of each other. It's so much nicer looking at a time count and knowing that it's counting from when the song actually started.

Hey Guys, I have a solution to work with existing conditions until an answer comes.  You could select all tracks, then check clip properties, and change when those selected tracks start.  If they start at "0" and the MBT is 1:1:000, then change all the tracks to 5:1:000.  they will all jump to beat 5.  Then if your click track is not changed, you would have a beat to start "pre-roll" and pick up your axe and lay down some tracks.  If you want two measures, set the MBT for 9:1:000.  Click track runs for 2 full measures, music starts.  One word of caution, be sure to select all tracks except click track!  It wouldn't be marked "0" when it starts, but would act that way!  Works for me!

Swinhart


Hey Guys, I have a solution to work with existing conditions until an answer comes.  You could select all tracks, then check clip properties, and change when those selected tracks start.  If they start at "0" and the MBT is 1:1:000, then change all the tracks to 5:1:000.  they will all jump to beat 5.  Then if your click track is not changed, you would have a beat to start "pre-roll" and pick up your axe and lay down some tracks.  If you want two measures, set the MBT for 9:1:000.  Click track runs for 2 full measures, music starts.  One word of caution, be sure to select all tracks except click track!  It wouldn't be marked "0" when it starts, but would act that way!  Works for me!

I can't see how this has anything to do with the problem we're talking about. What we want is that the project bar numbers match the timeline bar numbers also when count-in bars are used.. In your example the first bar # of the song is something else than #1.

quoricsant ... the "cymbals count-in" in your picture is a smash on the first beat of every bar of 4 bars ...
FWIW, we normally do count-ins in beats, not bars :-)

Doesn't deter from the fact that you have a good idea here though.  I was used to a negative count-in which you could set in SAW many years ago ...

+1, gets my vote too.

+1 for me too

I have been ask/requesting the "feature" since CWPA 8 or 9. I gave up till recently I read some posts on the topic. So I put in my request again!! Here we go again!! Oh, and I wanted to bump topic!!!