Can Melodyne do what AutoTune can?

I have not left Melodyne in any project as a region FX because it works best on smaller regions than an entire track. I use it most often for what you are asking but in stand-alone mode. I will open the vocal track (right from the SONAR project folder), hit Ctrl-A (select all notes), apply pitch correction to the key, save the file, and close it. Just be sure X3 does not have the project open when doing that (file sharing conflict concerns). Then when SONAR is opened again it loads the modified file in, and you can continue on your way. This has been my primary use of Melodyne, and my workflow was chosen simply to tighten vocals and "be done with it."
 
While learning the effects that does, it is best to "save as" a different file first, then import it into SONAR so you retain the original (just in case).

Melodyne can't do live correction. It's algorithms don't allow it because it depends partly on looking ahead to get a natural sounding result.
 
I completely disagree with the other poster though; I would definitely use Melodyne from within Sonar. ARA integration is one of its best features. If you need it on everything put it on everything. Bouncing back and forth seems a huge waste of time.

Sanderxpander
 
 
I completely disagree with the other poster though; I would definitely use Melodyne from within Sonar. ARA integration is one of its best features. If you need it on everything put it on everything. Bouncing back and forth seems a huge waste of time.

Phew, I thought it was just me that can't see the logic to that at all.

Well if you happen to have jumped on the bandwagon with Addictive Keys recently, you got Nectar Essentials for free last week which can do that I think. I honestly don't really get the point  though. You can't really properly sing with autotune on and for anything else I definitely prefer Melodyne. You can choose to tighten everything or adapt specific notes. I usually do the latter. With ARA it's super, super quick. Select a line/phrase, hit CTRL+M, adjust to taste.

Right, well I suppose you could flatten the comp, hit CTRL+M to open Melodyne, CTRL+A to select all notes and then click "correct pitch" with whatever settings you like. I really recommend learning basic Melodyne controls/workflow though, it's really quick and extremely effective.

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caminitic
Thanks for the reply.  I wish the procedure was "less clunky" than that, as it would be nice to loosen or tighten as needed after hearing the pitch correction in context of the song.  I'll play around with it though...

Another thing that would improve Melodyne: it would be nice to have it show in the track view the way Audio Snap does so notes on other tracks could either be used as a timing guide or could be timed using Melodyne's view as a guide. As it is, timing matches to other tracks need to be done with Audio Snap... unless I'm missing something.

Interesting idea but I think that level of integration would require celemony  make custom versions of it's software for each DAW.  The ARA standard enables them to integrate Melodyne into multiple software without making a custom version for each.  Audio snap is able to work in that manner because it is tied to Sonar on a much deeper level than Melodyne.

caminitic.
No I mean AFTER the vocalist has done his thing, after I've comped it......

I wish you'd said that bit before - in that case melodyne is pretty straightforward, though the included version is a bit basic.

Sanderxpander
Visual timing matches are easier with AudioSnap, yes. But you can still match timing by ear with Melodyne and it sounds a ton better than AudioSnap except perhaps for cleanly sliced drums. Melodyne does have a timing grid by the way, so while it's not easy to line them up, you can still look at where your reference timing is between beats or subdivisions and then drag Melodyne blobs to the same place.

Yes, I've tried it that way; it's just far more time-consuming.

These replies seem to reinforce why I'm a huge fan of AT...at least for the purposes of what I'm using it for.  When it's in the EFX bin of a post-comp, ready for mixing lead vocal, I can put it on "auto" mode with slight tuning and slow speed and literally watch the red light flat/sharp "flutter" in the pitch errors IN REAL TIME as the track is playing...and make adjustments as needed.  Basically, I'm listening for transparency with no sour notes or obvious pitch corrections.  (When that's the case, I can do surgery on the offending clip...).
 
It sounds to me that with the 20,000 things that Melodyne can do better, for this purpose...AT still wins.  I'm still eager to learn more about Melodyne and wish my old AT DX plugin ran in my 64-bit X3 setup...  =(

I have used both and it's not even close.  If you have addictive Keys, they included nectar elements which has a decent pitch correction

Having seen both in action let's agree to disagree, once you hear the results and understand the working methodology is so much more than pitch correction, I suspect you will soon change your mind. Like everything the paperwork doesn't do it justice.

Part of me is VERY afraid that once I see ALL the things Melodyne can do, I'll be tweaking every single track and never actually complete a mix!  Pandora's box!!!!  Lemme go check out some of their online vids....  ;)

I have much work with not very good singers :-) and of course No AT... only Melodyne and... thanks to Cakewalk and Celemony... only as RegionFX now. However, if you are working with good vocalists maybe to use AT preferable, but good singers often do not require pitch correction :-)