nick8004
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 179
- Joined: 2003/11/18 05:39:55
- Status: offline
Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
I want to create a swing jazz drum track using Sonar X2 and Superior Drums. Rather than play the whole cymbal part manually, I would like to create three or four MIDI clips featuring the ride cymbal and then have Sonar play the cymbal part, randomly switching to a different (or occasionally the same) clip with each new measure. Is this possible? If so, how?
|
rebel007
Max Output Level: -72 dBFS
- Total Posts : 926
- Joined: 2013/07/17 11:24:29
- Location: Victoria, Australia
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/02/25 01:31:54
(permalink)
Is it worth putting your clips into the Matrix View and triggering them as required, in a sequence that you choose. Not sure if there is a random trigger feature, but you could choose when you wanted each clip to feature, and mix and match them to suit.
Home Built Desktop Computer: Intel Core i5 750: 4Mb RAM: NVidia 210 Silent: Windows 10 32bit: Sonar Platinum: Roland OctaCapture Presario CQ41 Laptop: Intel Core i5 760: 4Mb RAM: Windows 10 32bit: Sonar Platinum (Retired) CbB on HP Pavilion Laptop 64bit: GeForce Video Card: Intel 8550: 256GB SSD 1TB Data Drive: Windows10 64bit
|
Kalle Rantaaho
Max Output Level: -5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 7005
- Joined: 2006/01/09 13:07:59
- Location: Finland
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/02/25 04:19:02
(permalink)
There are drum VSTs with different kinds of random/hit propability settings (like de la Manchas Erratic, IIRC),
but I don't think SONAR has anything of that kind natively, assuming Matrix View doesn't.
SONAR PE 8.5.3, Asus P5B, 2,4 Ghz Dual Core, 4 Gb RAM, GF 7300, EMU 1820, Bluetube Pre - Kontakt4, Ozone, Addictive Drums, PSP Mixpack2, Melda Creative Pack, Melodyne Plugin etc. The benefit of being a middle aged amateur is the low number of years of frustration ahead of you.
|
JimmyBoy
Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
- Total Posts : 387
- Joined: 2013/08/31 21:03:38
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/02/25 06:49:21
(permalink)
de la Manchas Erratic sounds like a pretty cool VST to have - bugga looks like the download is removed - I've tried 3 or 4 different sites that list it for download and get the 404
 You this read wrong....  JimmyBoy SoundCloud Sonar Producer X3e, Z3TA+2.1, TH2 x64 2.2.17 Full, Amplitude 3, Windows 10 x64, ...HP ENVY 17-j005tx Notebook, IDT High Definition Audio CODEC, ASIO4aLL2 HP ENVY Recline 27-k001a TouchSmart, Scarlett 2i2, Samson G-Track, Samson Graphite 49 [utube] https://youtu.be/Uds7g3M-4lQ[/utube]
|
nick8004
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 179
- Joined: 2003/11/18 05:39:55
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/02/25 15:29:57
(permalink)
Thanks, folks. Yeah, so far my best solution is to assign the cymbal clips in the Matrix and then "play" my variations in real time along with the drum parts. I thought it would be nice if I could forget about the cymbals entirely and have the part "play" itself so I could just focus on the drums.
|
mettelus
Max Output Level: -22 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5321
- Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
- Location: Maryland, USA
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/02/25 17:36:38
(permalink)
I think the "random" (source files) is the kicker here. I do not know of a way for that within SONAR but some VSTs allow for layered pads to fire randomly. I have taken to using Geist for this feature.
The Step Sequencer or Cal scripts can randomize the MIDI data but not the triggered audio.
ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1070Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
|
nick8004
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
- Total Posts : 179
- Joined: 2003/11/18 05:39:55
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/02/27 01:20:32
(permalink)
mettelus
I think the "random" (source files) is the kicker here. I do not know of a way for that within SONAR but some VSTs allow for layered pads to fire randomly. I have taken to using Geist for this feature.
The Step Sequencer or Cal scripts can randomize the MIDI data but not the triggered audio.
I was wondering if there might be a Cal script that could do what I want. But I need more than just random MIDI data, I need to trigger random MIDI clips which most likely would be set up in the Matrix.
|
mettelus
Max Output Level: -22 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5321
- Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
- Location: Maryland, USA
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/03/02 06:29:10
(permalink)
I am still curious about this topic, since almost everything is "there" except for the triggering (which is my big interest). I have not done much with MIDI, so know there are a lot of tricks out there that I do not even know about.
The Matrix view does very much allow for MIDI trigger assignments, and using the "random patterns" in a row will make them all mutually exclusive. So if I chose 4 patterns, and assigned 4 MIDI notes to trigger each, is there a way to "randomly generate" which of the 4 notes is being played as the trigger (and limit the notes being randomized)?
The only thing that comes to mind is having a silent MIDI track running with the arpeggitor enabled, but there may be a much simpler solution to random note generation (real time).
ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1070Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
|
b rock
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 8717
- Joined: 2003/12/07 20:31:48
- Location: Anytown (South of Miami), U.S.A.
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/03/02 07:25:09
(permalink)
☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2014/03/02 08:27:39
So if I chose 4 patterns, and assigned 4 MIDI notes to trigger each, is there a way to "randomly generate" which of the 4 notes is being played as the trigger (and limit the notes being randomized)? How about the recently updated MFX Note Rotator from TenCrazy? TenCrazy.com MFX Note Rotator v1.2 (64-bit)
|
mettelus
Max Output Level: -22 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5321
- Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
- Location: Maryland, USA
- Status: offline
Re: Can Sonar Play Random MIDI or Audio Clips?
2014/03/02 08:29:43
(permalink)
Thanks b rock! It is amazing what happens when you ask people who know what they are doing!  I think that covers everything the OP was asking, but not completely sure.
ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC), i7-8700k, 16GB RAM, GTX-1070Ti, Win 10 Pro, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
|