revnice1
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Can anyone confirm signal path?
I bought this small box to use as a vocal submix device that would enable the singer to hear any mix he wants to sing to. There doesn't appear to be a manual and I'm not sure of the signal path. Here's what I think is supposed to happen: - Mic in, top left
- music in from audio interface via CD IN
- monitor out to headphone amp
So now I have a mix of music and vocals and I'm hearing it via the mon out. But how do I get vocals only back to the audio interface? Have I bought the wrong thing? http://www.steren.com.mx/mezcladora-usb-portatil-de-3-canales.html Thanks - rev
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 18:12:33
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The prices seem extremely high. If you could find an English site for that I may be able to help.
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revnice1
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 18:25:04
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 18:42:54
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 18:44:31
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Without a circuit diagram I don't think one can know how the signal flow is on that device.
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 18:54:16
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It would not be a deal even if it were in Yen. $1490...yikes.
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 19:04:21
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revnice1
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 19:21:44
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Thanks, I have the specs and my Spanish isn't bad but there's no Contact link on any Steren site and Googling for the manual yields nothing. There's not much on youtube either (though someone did make a video on how to unbox it!) - maybe I'll learn something by watching vids on similar models. The biggest problem seems to be that there's no dedicated OUT for CH1, the microphone. Yes, you'll get vocals at the MON and Main but that output is going to be a mix of vocals and audio. If music came in via LINE IN, I could maybe sing into CD IN and send the vocal back out via CD OUT. But I'd have to jump through hoops to sing into a line IN. Balanced/unbalanced, wrong level, etc. I think it's the wrong thing.
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 19:33:39
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Translates fine in IE with Bing. Looks like a normal USB mixer to me. I would guess output is USB to your computer which should see it as an interface. Portable 3-channel USB mixer It transmits and mix audio from your PC or laptop! USB input for direct audio from a computer transferCannon/6.3 mm microphone entry 2 AUX RCA inputs for audio players Treble and bass graphic EQ per channel (Left, right) channel balance control 3.5 mm stereo and RCA outputs You can connect headphones by AUX 3.5 mm for monitoring USB type B entry works also for feeding <<<--- this probably means DC power
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 19:39:24
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 19:50:21
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John Its a Talent device and can be had for $39.95 US.
the elusive ' talent' button, and for onlyh $39.95, who'd have thought it would be so cheap? . . . i think there will be a run on this
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 20:28:01
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That won't really work because it's going to mix the monitors with the vocals going to your interface. You would have needed a mixer with Aux outputs or direct record outs. And my guess is there's no ASIO driver so that's a big waist of time farting around with that. This is what I use for both the studio and for my live in ear monitors. There is both an XLR input and output as well as a 1/4" TRS monitor input that can be set for stereo or mono. It does not change your mikes signal and then the monitor mix and the mike can be individually adjusted. They are $80 in Canada. I have 2 of them , one is I think 20 years old and still works. I can have my volcals at the perfect level , I have 100% control. I can use it anywhere on any system. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00J14G7OO/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1977604502&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001032IDS&pf_rd_m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&pf_rd_r=RC9JYB0RJAJCSKT6Z8EW
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revnice1
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/12 21:18:49
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Just so we can all get past the price, the peso is around 20:1 which means I paid roughly $74 US. OK? It's described as a USB mixer but there is no USB input. The only USB is on the back and it's for power. Assuming you could convert USB input to RCA jacks, then it would work but Mexico doesn't care much about misleading advertising. The reason there's no manual or signal flow chart is because it's not necessary, it's a Karaoke device whose function is obvious (to me now). Yes, I've figured that out. It only does this: - Music in, voice in, a mix of both out.
The rest is just there to accept different sources for the music, the buttons direct the output to either monitor or main. The questions I had in the store (in Spanish) all seemed to be answered adequately. - Does it mix vocals and music? Yes.
- For recording? Yes. (this is where I should have been more specific)
- Can you vary levels in the output? Yes (etc)
The dude wasn't wrong but obviously he didn't understand the desired application. I live in Mexico and it's very difficult to get stuff from the US. Most US vendors won't accept Mexican credit cards, they must think I'm laundering my $74 bucks. If you can get something shipped, Mexico wants 16% tax and another 16% import duty so you might not save any money, especially after shipping. It can all be fudged, some vendors will even change the amount on the receipt to help you out but unless you have a friend coming down to visit, it's can be a lengthy fiasco. I may be able to trade up at the same store or get half back from a DJ type person.
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soens
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/13 06:12:07
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The only USB is on the back and it's for power.
It more than likely uses USB for power & audio since there's no power jack. I cannot say it's false or not but the manual & video both say the USB is 2 way audio in & out to your computer. If so It should work like any USB interface with the right drivers. Quote from manual: 11. USB PORT This Type B USB port is used to connect the power supply, or computer via Type B to A connector. http://www.parts-express.com/talent-mix-r-mini-portable-3-channel-mixer-with-usb-audio-interface--233-120
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/13 06:18:53
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Looks like a behringer unit.
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Re: Can anyone confirm signal path?
2017/01/13 12:41:02
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My Nephew lives in Pueblo. They run a church and an orphanag there. He got into sound in a big way because of the issues as you say with just getting gear good gear. Because he also is 100% bilingual he got a job writing technical manuals in Spanish for Meyer sound and a few other high end audio companies. Our family knows all abut the things you just can't get down there. Our suitcases are always packed with special orders from Canada. If you can, trade it for any small mixer that has an auxiliary send. That would allow the vocals to be sent from the mixer to the interface without the playback being heard too. I have a Mackie Mix 8 that would be perfect. I'm sure they sell those down there somewhere. See the green knobs and then the Aux send goes to the interface line input
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